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08-04-2013 05:15 PM
hellosailor
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

Transfering routes and waypoints depends on two things. First, if the data is in a format that both sides can use. Second, the physical transfer.

You don't need bluetooth, you may be able to use WiFi, WiFi Direct, a USB transfer cable, or move the files to an SD card or other media and transfer them that way.

Lots of options depending on your hardware and software.
08-03-2013 07:23 PM
LinekinBayCD
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

Is there a way to transfer routes and waypoints from a Garmin chartplotter or a PC to the Garmin or Navionics apps without Bluetooth ? I have both apps but really only use them for a quick position check when I not at the helm. If I had to pick one over the other I'd probably go with the Garmin because the screen is a little less cluttered especially on an iPhone.
08-03-2013 10:17 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

I use Charts and Tides and find it simple and easy to use. Mostly used as a backup nav and pre-planner. No connectivity is required. I don't need or want anything hard core. I got Garmin when I went to BVI this winter, as C&T doesnt have BVI charts available, mostly to have something to quickly measure distances. Works great, but surprisingly more complicated. Garmin has made an art of intuitive interfaces in many other product lines.

I have actually needed my ipad twice as a backup in the last couple of years. Once, the internal compass for the plotter went belly up, then the plotter at the helm went dark on me another time. The first was in a small, unfamiliar, unmarked cove. The latter I was in familair territory, but it was still very nice to have.
08-02-2013 08:33 PM
chef2sail
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

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Originally Posted by PaulinVictoria View Post
I can put my phone into flight mode, switch off data, wifi etc and it loads the Navionics app just fine, so clearly not all versions require a connection. I'm running 2.9.3
Paul is correct I can do the same My droid runs 4.0.4 version ( ice cream sandwich) on an HTC One
08-02-2013 08:15 PM
PaulinVictoria
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

I can put my phone into flight mode, switch off data, wifi etc and it loads the Navionics app just fine, so clearly not all versions require a connection. I'm running 2.9.3
08-02-2013 01:47 PM
Cruisingdad
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

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Originally Posted by SHNOOL View Post
I can verify that Navionics on android requires signal to verify the license. This bugs me too, especially when I am just popping on the plotter to see my location at night.
that kinda screws up one of the biggest points of even having the software, doesn't it?? I guess they are doing that to restrict piracy, but come-on!

Brian
08-02-2013 12:53 PM
SHNOOL
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

I can verify that Navionics on android requires signal to verify the license. This bugs me too, especially when I am just popping on the plotter to see my location at night. My world is landlocked, and I don't do "planning" like you folks to the phone is my only plotter.

I've tried a couple programs and find the Navionics is pretty stellar for the price.

I will give a try to some of the others mentioned here though, as as best I can tell they are all available for android as well.

I WILL say, that I support smart-devices for my job (again a geek IT guy)... and my Droid Razr Maxx (original) at 2 years old can run for 12 straight hours with the screen on and active overlay satellite imagery onto the screen while doing it, where my old iphone 4 couldn't do it for more than 2 hours without toasting the battery (I doubt the 5 is much better).

Beyond that I think it's amazing what can be done with smart phones, and tablets now. I think with time (and some standardization in size of tablets) some really great cases, mounts and the like will make them default Chartplotters for everyone. I mean it cannot be far off since the FAA already allows ipads for Pilot charts (2 years ago) FAA OKs iPad for Pilots' Charts | Autopia | Wired.com

The Lifeproof cases also work well for protecting/weatherproofing these... as does Otterbox.
08-02-2013 12:40 PM
chef2sail
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

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Originally Posted by Cruisingdad View Post
I have seen more and more people connecting their Ipads to the pedestal (even ft cruisers) than ever before. I wonder if this is starting to hurt business for the Raymarines of the world?

Anyways, they are good apps and cheap investments as everyone seems to agree.

Brian
Probably, but you need to spend some good bucks on the initial CP. It is so much easier to plot, ad lay in your course on an IPad at you leisure then download by just syncing them via Bluetooth.

My wife gets annoyed when I am down below on passage watching her movements on the IPad.
08-02-2013 11:46 AM
Cruisingdad
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
I also have both the Garmin and Navionics on my IPad, Droid phone and Navionics on my Ramarine c95w.

I prefer the Navionics for the superior tides and currents search and display. I prefer Garmin if I use the Active Captain.

As you said its easier to lay in the chart on an I pad/ android phone. My Chartplotter has a Bluetooth connect ability and you can transfer it right to the Chartplotter. Also my IPad serves as a second CP so no need for a secondary one t the nav station or in he cockpit when not behind the helm.
I have seen more and more people connecting their Ipads to the pedestal (even ft cruisers) than ever before. I wonder if this is starting to hurt business for the Raymarines of the world?

Anyways, they are good apps and cheap investments as everyone seems to agree.

Brian
08-02-2013 01:57 AM
chef2sail
Re: Garmin and Navionics Apps

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Originally Posted by Cruisingdad View Post
I have both the Garmin and the Navionics Apps. I was reluctant about getting them at first, but I gotta tell you, I now do ALL my quick plotting off of them and I use them as backups.

I will give you my opinion on the two, so take it for just that. THe Navionics is cheaper and is easier to use. You can also get updates easier on it because it seems to be a smaller file. However, if I had to pick one, the Garmin App would def be the one I would choose.

I still have not figured out all the Garmin stuff, but I got it with the weather overlay also. It is very fast and I think the maps and options are better and more detailed. It is a little more difficult to figure out, but with the time, it is worth the investment.

Why would you purchase these if you have a Charplotter (or even have it on your IPad)?

For one, there have been many times we are hanging out with other sailors and inevitably (esp as cruisers) the discussion of anchorages and places to go comes up. I have also gotten great tidbits on shoaling and areas to watch out for. By having it on your phone, you can pull it right out and discuss it. Pretty much everyone carries their phone everywhere now days.

Second, it is MUCH quicker. Now, I only have an E80, but there is no comparison between the speed of plotting on the Iphone versus the Raymarine. Much faster on the Iphone... basically seamless. SO while I still lay in my course in my chartplotter, I can do my planning quicker with the app first.

Third, it gives a backup. Also, the charts are a bit different between the Navionics (Raymarine) and the Garmin. It is especially apparent for Bahamas stuff.


Anyways, for those going cruising, I would really check these things out. I think the Garmin app is running $50ish dollars plus like $4 for the overlay. The overlay works 'ok', but requires to be scrolled out to see it. Worth $4 though.

The Navionics is half of that IIRC. But like I said, I think the Garmin app is a bit better.

Others are free to throw in any other thoughts.

Brian
I also have both the Garmin and Navionics on my IPad, Droid phone and Navionics on my Ramarine c95w.

I prefer the Navionics for the superior tides and currents search and display. I prefer Garmin if I use the Active Captain.

As you said its easier to lay in the chart on an I pad/ android phone. My Chartplotter has a Bluetooth connect ability and you can transfer it right to the Chartplotter. Also my IPad serves as a second CP so no need for a secondary one t the nav station or in he cockpit when not behind the helm.
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