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10-27-2014 11:41 AM
smackdaddy
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Originally Posted by MedSailor View Post
Why would you need to ADD stiffness to the Bimini after adding tge solar panels? Seems like their inbuilt box frames would add lateral and longitudinal strength to your Bimini.
They add a lot of torsional stiffness, but lateral and longitudinal needs some further support. In other words, it moves side to side too much. And, though the bimini fabric might fix it, I think I might run a diagonal down from the existing diagonal to that horizontal tube.
10-27-2014 12:44 AM
MedSailor
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

Why would you need to ADD stiffness to the Bimini after adding tge solar panels? Seems like their inbuilt box frames would add lateral and longitudinal strength to your Bimini.
10-26-2014 11:04 PM
smackdaddy
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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I was thinking after we returned to our boat, after our visit with you today. How sturdy was your bimini frame before you started adding the panels? I'm thinking that if the bimini was on, it would be way less shaky. Maybe not, but just a thought. That's a huge bimini.

Very nice boat, man. You did your homework, and may have bought one of the best Hunters ever. Thanks for the BFS koozies....I'll be drinking in style now. I however will avoid any BFS that I can on our boat, but if the shite hits the fan one day, I'll give you a nice write-up.

Ralph
It's much stiffer with the bimini on. The fabric provides a lot of support that's not there right now. BUT, I'll still need to stiffen laterally - and will likely add a couple of straps along the back.

I think it will work pretty well. We'll see.

It was great having you guys there today. Love hanging out with you all. Thanks for all the advice dude.
10-26-2014 10:21 PM
RTB
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

I was thinking after we returned to our boat, after our visit with you today. How sturdy was your bimini frame before you started adding the panels? I'm thinking that if the bimini was on, it would be way less shaky. Maybe not, but just a thought. That's a huge bimini.

Very nice boat, man. You did your homework, and may have bought one of the best Hunters ever. Thanks for the BFS koozies....I'll be drinking in style now. I however will avoid any BFS that I can on our boat, but if the shite hits the fan one day, I'll give you a nice write-up.

Ralph
10-26-2014 09:30 PM
smackdaddy
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

Spent yesterday working on mounting the solar panels. Got them "tacked" onto the bimini frame here:



300 watts of pure power, baby.

Now for the frame stiffening to see if this approach will work. Write up coming soon.
10-26-2014 09:03 PM
Faster
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
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Honestly, though, one thing I don't like is all the blocks. It is definitely easy to raise/lower/adjust everything, but it does seem like overkill. I think good SS rings would work just as well at the intersections, and keep everything lighter and simpler. But, for just $150 for the whole kit (minus line) it is very hard to beat.
Ours are simply looped through eye splices.. the upper portions are line, the lowers are shock cord. The shock cord makes them 'self tightening' when stored and the upper ends are fixed to the mast on padeyes.

Shock cord does age and stretch over time.. we're due a replacement, 3rd time in 10 years now.

Since we only deploy them during the douse, they are stored and do not interfere with the hoist. If I were to leave them in place like so many do I'd attach the upper ends to a spreader about 6" off the mast to reduce interference with a hoist...
10-26-2014 08:59 PM
smackdaddy
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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If you leave enough line at the mast base you can fully retract/store the jacks along the mast and boom and avoid the chafe and visual distraction while sailing.
This is exactly right. I don't like having the lazy jacks up all the time as it can mess with the trim of the main. This way I can lower and stow them while underway. And this is the way this system was designed anyway.

Jara, I wish I could have set it up like yours with the lines inside the mast. That must be sweet.

Honestly, though, one thing I don't like is all the blocks. It is definitely easy to raise/lower/adjust everything, but it does seem like overkill. I think good SS rings would work just as well at the intersections, and keep everything lighter and simpler. But, for just $150 for the whole kit (minus line) it is very hard to beat.
10-26-2014 12:26 PM
Faster
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Interesting way of doing it. I've never seen it done that way, I've always seen the controll lines led along the boom. This way is simpler, and les noisey and causes fewer holes in the mast!
If you leave enough line at the mast base you can fully retract/store the jacks along the mast and boom and avoid the chafe and visual distraction while sailing.
10-26-2014 11:19 AM
pcmm
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Originally Posted by Jaramaz View Post
With blocks in the mast it is easy to control / change the tension in the Lazy Jacks. I have a similar design - althoug the return of the Lazy Jacks goes internally in the mast in my case - minimizing windage and some noise.

In fact, there many ways to install Lazy Jacks.

Good luck with the sailing Smack!

/J
Interesting way of doing it. I've never seen it done that way, I've always seen the controll lines led along the boom. This way is simpler, and les noisey and causes fewer holes in the mast!
10-26-2014 11:13 AM
Jaramaz
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Nice video, but I have to ask...what are the blocks on the mast for that you installed?? Normally on a lazy jack system you attach pad eyes at the mast and put the blocks in the Ys of the system.
With blocks in the mast it is easy to control / change the tension in the Lazy Jacks. I have a similar design - althoug the return of the Lazy Jacks goes internally in the mast in my case - minimizing windage and some noise.

In fact, there many ways to install Lazy Jacks.

Good luck with the sailing Smack!

/J
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