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08-20-2013 12:21 PM
FarCry
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

OK, I thought you were looking for guns or other boarding deterrents for your security.

So what was the outcome? Did you buy her? If so, where are the photos? What are your plans?
08-11-2013 01:11 AM
contracorriente
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

safety equipment - life raft, life vests.. the only actual ´things´inside are the engine, the main, the gib, a spinnaker, a gps, and a depth finder. not even the propane tank for the stove.

I wasn´t planning on hiring a surveyor. I´ve had about 6 long time seamen check it out inside out and they came with me sailing on it as well. all agreed it was in good shape. still will take it out of the water in the next few months.
08-10-2013 02:54 PM
FarCry
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

What is security equipment?

Your list of concerns seems pretty complete to me. Have you concerned hiring a surveyor?
08-09-2013 06:24 PM
contracorriente
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Alright FarCry, I'm meeting with the owner on sunday to buy the boat! I tested it on the water with some experienced captains and it sails beautifully. The sails are a little bit old, but still in good shape. The engine sounded fine. it has a gps and a depth finder. Totally stripped off of all security equipment, so i'll have to get all that new. But the boat is in great shape, upholstery new.

Anyway, i wanted to ask you if you had anything to add to this already comprehensive checklist that i'm taking with me.

Thanks!!

Does it have bottom paint?

What kind of bottom paint? Brand? How many gallons needed? When last applied?

Size of zincs. When last changed.

Type / brand of oil. When last changed.

Fuel Filters: type and when last changed.

Raw water impellor. When last changed

Engine manuals

Any other instruction manuals and installation for everything from the VHF radio, the chartplotter, to the microwave.

Any spare parts he won't need on his next boat

How much fuel can she carry?

How much water?

Is everything that was listed actually on the boat?

Where's the storm sail?

Where's that second propane tank?

Where's the fuel shutoff?

What's the trick to opening this hatch?

Anything you need to remember to turn on or turn off before you get underway? (Example: water heater)

What should I know about this boat that I don't even know that I don't know?

Any particular mechanic or yard he would recommend who would be familiar with the boat.

Why kind of canvass does it have? How old is the canvas?

With whom is the boat insured?

What's this knob on the helm do that has no label?

Show me where all the through hull valves are and what each one does - take notes.

Does she have a left hand or right hand prop?

How do we reef the main?

What's that funny noise she makes when you put her in reverse?

Condition of engine and outdrive?

How was the boat used (Inshore? Offshore? Fishing? Pleasure? Freshwater? Saltwater?)

How many hours on the engine/outdrive?

Has the boat ever sat unused for any length of time?

What repairs have been done?

What things require repair or maintenance right now?

How was the boat maintained? Do you have all of the maintenance records?

Condition of deck, upholstery and interior?

How is the hull and exterior cosmetics?

Are there any blisters or dry rot?

Does it include a dinghy (condition of dinghy)?

Is it all original fiberglass and graphics?

How has the boat been stored?

Has the boat ever been left in the water on a regular basis? (stored at a marina, dock or at anchor?)

Has the boat ever been in an accident?

What other accessories are included?

Do you have clear title to the boat?

Are you the boat’s only owner or are there partners?

Has the boat ever been safety inspected? If so, when?

What else would you like me to know about the boat?

If electronics are included, what condition are they in?
What types of electronics does it have?
Any transferable warranties on any of the items?

- Why are you selling the boat?

- What do you really like about the boat?

- What do you really NOT like about the boat?

- What's the worst problem you ever had with this boat?
07-27-2013 01:45 PM
FarCry
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Quote:
Originally Posted by contracorriente View Post
Alright, I'm going to sail it tomorrow to test drive it so i'm excited!

The last question is in regards to off shore navigation. Have you owners spent much time sailing this vessel off shore? And one specific question to all: would you sail this vessel across the pacific ocean? I live in Panama and would probably think about crossing the canal and going across the Pacific eventually. Can this boat handle it? By everything mentioned, it would take it much longer than a lot of other boats, but would it make it? Or is that kind of voyage too taxing for this kind of boat?

Thanks!
I have not spent a lot of time offshore on a BC31.

I've never sailed in the Pacific and have no idea what conditions one might encounter on the way. It's my understanding that you would be going downwind mostly and or motoring. Would I sail my old BC31 across that pond? Maybe... I would have no doubts my BC31 would survive the trip. She had survived numerous hurricanes in the water here. I've sailed her in some rough conditions, others above have done the same with theirs. All things being equal, there is a large list of other boats I would prefer to make the trip on. If I was going to live on the boat once I got someplace, then I might lean more towards it. For a 31' boat there is a lot of interior room. I'm not sure anybody can fully answer your questions without knowing your budget, the existing condition of the vessel you are looking at, the amount it would cost to get her passage ready, your skill level, your schedule, your crew, your long term plan once across, your minimum comfort level, etc. I believe a properly setup BC31 could go most anywhere the crew wished to take her just as I suspect nearly any boat of that era would be "able" to make it most anywhere.
07-27-2013 01:15 AM
Raffa
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Hola, Let me introduce myself, I'm Rafael from Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, I just bought a bombay clipper 31' and I need the plumbing plans and electric plans, by any chance somebody can share it with me? Thanks a lot in advance
07-26-2013 03:49 PM
contracorriente
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Alright, I'm going to sail it tomorrow to test drive it so i'm excited!

The last question is in regards to off shore navigation. Have you owners spent much time sailing this vessel off shore? And one specific question to all: would you sail this vessel across the pacific ocean? I live in Panama and would probably think about crossing the canal and going across the Pacific eventually. Can this boat handle it? By everything mentioned, it would take it much longer than a lot of other boats, but would it make it? Or is that kind of voyage too taxing for this kind of boat?

Thanks!
07-24-2013 11:36 PM
FarCry
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Well it depends..... Water we could go a long time but we used a lot of salt water for most things and rinsed with just a little of the precious fresh water. You can put a few 5 gallon water jugs on the lifelines. I used to store two 5 gallon water jugs down in the giant lazerette in case we ran out.

You can do the same with fuel. Originally my boat had a 15hp Yanmar that sipped between a 1/4 and 1/3 gallon per hour. I was a sailor and sailed a lot of the time. I filled the tank up once a year, whether it needed it or not!!! Just before selling Far Cry I installed a 20hp Yanmar and fuel burn would have gone up proportionally to match increased horsepower. I had solar so never needed to run the engine to charge batteries. If you are set up similarly I would suspect you would need water much more often then you needed fuel. 6 miles is just an hour each way under power. Plan accordingly and I wouldn't think you'd have a problem. If tankage were an issue there is a lot of space that could be utilized for the installation of bladder tanks. You could always get creative with awnings to be used for rain collection too.
07-24-2013 11:19 PM
contracorriente
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Water and gas question:
How long can you go with 60 gallons of water capacity? and the 30 gallons of diesel? I just don't know how fast water is consumed. on the islands where i plan to have the boat, there's no water. you have to go about 6 miles or more for water. did you guys have issues with that? thanks!
07-19-2013 11:08 PM
contracorriente
Re: Bombay Clipper 31

Thank you SO MUCH for that thorough answer. I will definitely let you know what I find after sailing it for a day and taking it out of the water for inspection.

thanks!
stef
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