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1 Week Ago 12:48 AM
Yamsailor
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

LOL--and I care about this because.....?

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Originally Posted by Shockwave View Post
CAREFUL! You'll raise the wrath of Smack....
1 Week Ago 12:45 AM
Yamsailor
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

Well, tell that to the unlimited tonnage ships masters (many whom I know personally) who wake up an hour or so before his officers watch change and just before nautical twilight where said Captain turns off the screens and orders his officers to shoot the stars. Said Captain tells his junior officers he expects them to have results calculated to be within 5 NM of the actual GPS position of the ship. I suppose a ship with all its multimillion dollar navigation equipment and highly trained crew is no match for a weekend warrior navigator.

Furthermore the USCG has issued several Notice to Mariners stating: 1) Expect GPS satellite coverage to be out for periods of time because the replacement rates for new satellites have decreased; and 2) There have been attacks on the satellite software that have temporarily shut down the satellites.

Having a working chart plotter that does not receive a signal because it is not being sent a signal while in the middle of the ocean would be somewhat of a problem if one does not know Cel Nav-- don't you think? Said weekend warrior fires off his electronic (not necessarily EPIRB) SOS triggering device or gets a location by calling on Satellite phone. Then the ship Captain as stated above has to reroute his ship to save some weekend warriors ass because they were too stupid or too arrogant to not learn how to properly navigate--Costing said Captain to expend time, fuel, and money.

I might add that all USCG licensed deck officers with an ALL OCEANS endorsement only received that endorsement after qualifying and passing their Cel Nav Exams and earning said endorsement.


Maybe I am biased as I am a Licensed Master.


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Originally Posted by SimonV View Post
Oh dear, Why in this modern age do we need to go backwards. A chart plotter is the primary form of navigation used and to say otherwise is plain laughable. As for celestial navigation, it would be nice to have that skill but again to say it is essential, come on your having a joke. Beneteau 45s have and still are sailing around the world. Time has moved on and its possible you have not.
1 Week Ago 10:46 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

The OP seemed to be configuring a cruise ship apartment, more than a circumnavigator. I say, have all the creature comforts one wants. However, a 26" TV is a must, but no water maker? Passes on a diesel generator, but also no mention of solar or wind gens. Then there were concerns about being able to dock and possibly adding a rubber barrier to prevent damage. The final straw was the thought of having a life raft was qualified with "maybe".

It was a couple of years ago, I wonder how they made out.
1 Week Ago 09:13 AM
MarkofSeaLife By the way, for the unsafe idiots who wish to navigate by the stars you can do so with an app on your smart phone.

Just point the smartphone at a few stars and it gives you lat and lon.

Like this one. http://appcrawlr.com/android/starstruck-navigation

*** For celestial navigators: a Smartphone is a small box that looks like a small box with a small window that when electricity is applied via the On button appears like a cathode ray tube. Things wriggle on it. You add a small bit of plastic from a company called a 'telephone company' and you can ring Mum just like the 2 tin cans connected with string you currently use.
1 Week Ago 09:02 AM
MarkofSeaLife
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CAREFUL! You'll raise the wrath of Smack....
And me!

The posts was so much BS in every point I am not wasting my time replying to it.
1 Week Ago 08:53 AM
Don0190
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

I love it when someone posts just in time to save the thread starter
1 Week Ago 02:21 AM
SimonV
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

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Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
You may want to read John Kretschmers book "Sailing a Serious Ocean"

John Kretschmer Sailing - Training Passages - Workshops - Presentations - Expeditions - Writing/Photography

First, paper charts should be your primary navigation tool, not chart plotters. Second, make sure you know how to perform Celestial Navigation. Third are you sure you want to go around the world in a Beneteau 45? The boat is not designed for that type of sailing. Yeah you could easily sail from the US to the Caribbean, but crossing the Atlantic, Pacific or Indian oceans are way different sets of conditions.

Good Luck!
Oh dear, Why in this modern age do we need to go backwards. A chart plotter is the primary form of navigation used and to say otherwise is plain laughable. As for celestial navigation, it would be nice to have that skill but again to say it is essential, come on your having a joke. Beneteau 45s have and still are sailing around the world. Time has moved on and its possible you have not.
1 Week Ago 12:16 AM
Bleemus
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

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Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
You may want to read John Kretschmers book "Sailing a Serious Ocean"

John Kretschmer Sailing - Training Passages - Workshops - Presentations - Expeditions - Writing/Photography

First, paper charts should be your primary navigation tool, not chart plotters. Second, make sure you know how to perform Celestial Navigation. Third are you sure you want to go around the world in a Beneteau 45? The boat is not designed for that type of sailing. Yeah you could easily sail from the US to the Caribbean, but crossing the Atlantic, Pacific or Indian oceans are way different sets of conditions.

Good Luck!

Time to make more popcorn!


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1 Week Ago 12:48 PM
Shockwave
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamsailor View Post
You may want to read John Kretschmers book "Sailing a Serious Ocean"

John Kretschmer Sailing - Training Passages - Workshops - Presentations - Expeditions - Writing/Photography

First, paper charts should be your primary navigation tool, not chart plotters. Second, make sure you know how to perform Celestial Navigation. Third are you sure you want to go around the world in a Beneteau 45? The boat is not designed for that type of sailing. Yeah you could easily sail from the US to the Caribbean, but crossing the Atlantic, Pacific or Indian oceans are way different sets of conditions.

Good Luck!
CAREFUL! You'll raise the wrath of Smack....
1 Week Ago 03:10 PM
Yamsailor
Re: Beneteau Oceanis 45;I need your help to select right spec for 2yr world cruise pl

You may want to read John Kretschmers book "Sailing a Serious Ocean"

John Kretschmer Sailing - Training Passages - Workshops - Presentations - Expeditions - Writing/Photography

First, paper charts should be your primary navigation tool, not chart plotters. Second, make sure you know how to perform Celestial Navigation. Third are you sure you want to go around the world in a Beneteau 45? The boat is not designed for that type of sailing. Yeah you could easily sail from the US to the Caribbean, but crossing the Atlantic, Pacific or Indian oceans are way different sets of conditions.

Good Luck!
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