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1 Week Ago 10:26 AM
jerryrlitton
Re: how much experience do I need

"Rocket surgery"?
1 Week Ago 09:15 PM
pampasail
Re: how much experience do I need

So...over a year later I am curious to know, what ended up happening?
08-21-2013 09:58 PM
bigdogandy
Re: how much experience do I need

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaduction View Post
Yes.... well......more like "Brain Science"
Either way, ain't no need for a lab coat on a sailboat!
08-21-2013 07:24 PM
emcentar
Re: how much experience do I need

A reasonable plan would be to sign up for an ASA 101-103 course or equivalent. Then a few seasons of sailing on other people's boats - ideally with some more experienced sailors. Then if that isn't enough sailing for you, buy a boat, something you can handle with your usual number of crew. Sail her for a year and then if this plan is still appealing to you (as others have pointed out, this isn't a particularly fun route), go.

Sailing, even day-sailing, is a ton of fun. Take some classes, join a sailing club, rent boats for day sails - gaining sailing experience is fun. There's no need to skip over this part - enjoy it!

E.
08-20-2013 08:25 PM
chris_gee
Re: how much experience do I need

You have a goal. Now you need a plan that will enable you to carry it out safely. There are books and threads that will help. Unfortunately to plan you need to do a fair amount of research first.
I disagree with the 100-300 hours experience thing. That said no doubt someone could sail a course after that time. However you also want to be able to handle pretty much whatever comes up, and plan to hopefully avoid much of it.
I suggest you do at least courses to coastal level. As much sailing as you can on other's boats, and then try crewing on the odd coastal ocean passage. The more you learn, the more you realise what you need to learn. Experience is the best teacher but you need quite a bit as there are always new things that come up.
I am not saying you have to be perfect, just that the more practice you have had you will know what you have mastered and what happens when you are found lacking.
One trainer suggests having someone experienced with you on first passages because their competence and confidence rubs off. It also helps to establish if you become seasick or freaked out by being out of sight of land as many people do.
Your proposed crew are unlikely to be much help.
08-20-2013 08:18 PM
aeventyr60
Re: how much experience do I need

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Originally Posted by Fau View Post
"Sailing isn't rocket surgery"

That must be why so many sailboats and sailors are tied up to the dock rotting away. So easy, boring, and slow moving that nobody wants to do it. I guess the glamour of being a brain surgery beats the drudgery of being a sailor.
08-20-2013 07:49 PM
Seaduction
Re: how much experience do I need

Ok, go randsail! If huck finn can do it; so can you! Have a 'lfs' time!
08-20-2013 07:38 PM
BubbleheadMd
Re: how much experience do I need

Ok, all jokes aside.

First of all, the "Avoid Atomic 4's at all costs" advice is just nonsense. I, and many of my friends own them. They've been ticking on sailboats for 40 years, safely. They are no more dangerous than gasoline engines on powerboats. Most recreational powerboats are gasoline powered.

Personally, I'm not biased towards either gasoline or diesel. If my boat came with a diesel, depending on the brand, I'd be perfectly satisfied. Instead, my boat came with an Atomic-4 that runs like a Swiss watch, and I am perfectly satisfied with it. Why not visit the Moyer Marine forum and decide for yourself?

Second-
Heed the advice about the "mile off shore" discussion.
You don't "park" in the ocean and go to sleep. A vessel in the ocean is like a shark: Keep swimming or die.
In order to keep swimming (sailing), you need to maintain a continuous watch.
Solo sailing in the ocean is something that takes experience and practice. It takes time to develop routines that allow you to safely nap and sail and maintain a lookout. Even then, there are people who declare that solo ocean sailing is illegal, and unsafe. That's a debate for another time though.

Sailing is like piano-
You can learn how to bang the keys or pull the strings in an afternoon, but you'll spend the rest of your life, perfecting the craft.

That statement is not meant to discourage you. Quite the opposite, I urge you to embrace not only sailing, but good seamanship. Take pride in mastering the skills and practices that make a good sailor. You can learn to sail for recreation quickly and safely. The more advanced levels of single-handing, and ocean sailing take a little time and experience to safely acquire, but not terribly long at all.

Yes, there are people like the Bumfuzzles who simply fell into a boat and crossed oceans successfully. The Bumfuzzles laugh at people who urge caution. There are also countless people who fell into a boat, sailed into the ocean and sent Mayday calls, begging for rescue. Some were saved, some weren't.

DFerron is also right on the subject of passengers and family-

If you're sailing solo, it's your life to waste. Be a Bumfuzzle, and have a ball.
If you're dragging family or non-sailing passengers with you, YOU are responsible for their lives. Don't be reckless and clueless with other people's lives. Make sure you have the skills necessary to sail safely and smartly with passengers and family.

Good luck.
08-20-2013 07:09 PM
BubbleheadMd
Re: how much experience do I need

You will never be ready. Ever. Don't buy a boat, sit in the park and play checkers with the old timers.

Read this thread:
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...ly-outing.html
08-20-2013 05:56 PM
Seaduction
Re: how much experience do I need

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fau View Post
"Sailing isn't rocket surgery"

Yes.... well......more like "Brain Science"
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