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08-20-2013 02:59 PM
CalebD
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

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Originally Posted by EriCS View Post
True! I honestly feel like I won't be satisfied with a boat of this size. My brother has an 18' Catalina or Capri and its definitely small. What do you think about a j24 as a choice? It's not that comfy and never sailed one but it seems like a blast and it sails well in light wind. Plus it's only 24' which will help on storage during the winter. I am curious to know how much sails are for a boat like this compared to other in this range? I'm not planning on doing any competitive racing.
I have sailed on a J24. It does not need much wind to get it moving. It also has a pretty cramped cabin. It is a real racing boat though and not a boat I'd suggest someone to start out with. There have been a number of J24's that have sunk after capsizing: City Island Sailing: J-24 Sinks in the Hudson!
You could probably find used racing sails from a J-24 fairly easily. J-24 sails probably seem expensive as they are almost always racing sails made of mylar or other high tech material. Regular dacron sails for a J-24 would not cost more than for a similar sized boat of different make.

A more stable boat like an O'day 25' would seem to be more appropriate. The O 25' has a big cabin for it's size. There are center board & fin keel versions. Cockpit is not small. Boat is trailer-able.
There are a bunch of similar boats in this size range.
08-20-2013 01:55 AM
chris_gee
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

I would strongly suggest that you take the number of people who supposedly want to come out with you with a grain of salt. They like the idea in theory, but in practice have all sorts of other commitments. Second I don't know the weather pattern where you are but a lot of people like 2-3 weeks notice, however the weather can be uncertain even the day before. Third the odd trip is one thing but very few want anything more regular.
You can in fact have a great time in a relatively small boat with a couple and a child or two for weekends and maybe a week or so. Bear in mind that a child might well mean one or other of you is relatively pre-occupied so the other is single handing.
A lot of people might prefer bigger boats but even more have more fun in smaller ones.
08-20-2013 12:37 AM
northoceanbeach
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

If you're not planning on doing competitive racing, aren't j/24s priced a little higher with the race set in mind? I think you could find a more obscure boat for less, but just as good. Like you said, you don't want a mass produced boat anyways.

If its your first boat I would recommend not getting involved with any kind of fixer upper. It's got a good chance to be more of a fixer than you realize and you want to be out there sailing, not fixing. For $7000 you can get a real nice 25 footer, ready to go. Maybe only comfortable for four people though, at least for me. I feel cramped quickly.
08-19-2013 09:39 PM
EriCS
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

True! I honestly feel like I won't be satisfied with a boat of this size. My brother has an 18' Catalina or Capri and its definitely small. What do you think about a j24 as a choice? It's not that comfy and never sailed one but it seems like a blast and it sails well in light wind. Plus it's only 24' which will help on storage during the winter. I am curious to know how much sails are for a boat like this compared to other in this range? I'm not planning on doing any competitive racing.
08-19-2013 09:15 PM
CalebD
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

Rhodes 19' spec: RHODES 19 FK sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

A trailer able boat like this can save you a boat load on winter storage.
Not much in the way of sleeping berths but a decent sailor.
I'm not so sure about putting 6 in the cockpit either; 4 is more like the max crew with 2 being ideal.
08-19-2013 08:28 PM
EriCS
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

Just spoke to my former employer who is an avid sailor for suggestions. He not surprisingly thinks I should start off small in case I find its too much to maintain and keep financially. He offered me a rhodes 19 for almost free. He just wants me to cover the cost of his outboard whichnisonly a couple hundred bucks. What do you think I should do? It's not. Bad idea for sure bit don't really know if I will be happy with a smaller but but I guess I can't lose much having it and could always upgrade. How do they sail? I Know there a full keel but so I know there stable.
08-19-2013 12:05 AM
CalebD
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

North or south side of LI Sound?

Typical yearly costs of owning a 27' boat might be:
$1500 for hauling, winter storage and splash
for a mooring, as low as
$300 to $$$
or as high as:
$3500 for a slip for the summer.
Insurance: ~$350-500
Registration: $80
============
X,XXX.xx
That is your minimum budget for the year.

I think that donna makes some good points. You have to find the boat that speaks to you (and your wife or gf).
Bigger boats do cost more as everything is priced by the length of the boat. 27' feet is a good size to start in that can still be single handed and allow for some overnight trips.

There are quite a number of boat makes in your price range near 27' (Catalina, Tartan, O'day, Hunter, Bristol ....). I'm partial to the Tartan 27' having owned one for 10 years.
08-18-2013 10:39 PM
EriCS
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

Yes there is a several clubs in the area. I'm trying to get in touch with some guys my stepfather knew to see if they know of anybody looking for a crew member. Maybe that's a good ticket to try different boats.
08-18-2013 10:37 PM
EriCS
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

Probably just day sailing for now. It's hard to tell where this hobby will take me? I am assuming I would eventually like to race once I know how to sail better and plot courses. I also could see myself doing overnight trips. I'm sure my adventuring will grow as my experience does.
08-18-2013 07:13 PM
manatee
Re: Looking to sail again! Need some advice

Any sailing clubs nearby where you can get a taste of different boats? Boat-rentals?
What do you think your primary sailing will be: racing, day sailing, overnighting, extended coastal cruising?
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