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2 Days Ago 02:41 PM
Sal Paradise
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

Hey John

The guy hasn't checked in since last May so I doubt he is going to see this. You might want to take whatever measures you can to secure the boat. Good luck.

2 Days Ago 02:24 PM
JohnZion LChaim, is that your sailboat at World's Fair Marina? If so, you need to go tie it up to the dock more securel asap, there are 40 knot gusts predicted today and next few days. Boat as tied is an accident just waiting to happen. Dock lines should also be secured to (through) boat cleats, not just dropped over cleat. As they are they could jump off if it gets rough. And your anchor was chaffing your bow line. Another line or two would help. If this isn't your boat, my sincere apologies. If it is your boat, I hope you get this, and sorry for having to contact you this way. Marina was very unhelpful.
09-02-2013 10:07 PM
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

I did that trip last summer.
Another vote for 79th St Boat Basin. Cheap moorings and great location--walk to the Museum of Natural History. But rowing a dinghy against an outgoing tide is very hard.
It's an easy 2-day trip, motoring. You'll deal with tide in both directions over that time span, so they'll cancel each other out to some extent. If you're only sailing, obviously the travel time is going to be different.
I anchored each way behind Bannerman's Island. Great spot but tricky to get to, and only one way to do it. Maybe a half mile or so south of the island, on the E side, there's a masonry building right at water level that is part of the NYC water supply. From the channel, head directly towards it till you're about 50 or 60 feet from it and turn north to run parallel with the shoreline, maybe 60 feet off. Watch your depth closely. It's a little nerve-racking but the least reading I had was 9 feet and most places around 14 or so. The chart will show the channel and adjacent shoal.
Water deepens and the channel widens after one or 2 hundred yards and there you drop anchor. You're still close to the east shore, and passenger trains run regularly through the night, but the view of the ruins is great.
I've read that you can anchor under the Pallisade cliffs on the W shore north of the GW Bridge. I actually did anchor easily there but not overnight.
A strong north wind, say with a storm, can generate surprisingly large (3-4') waves on that river--surprised me after a few years on Lake Champlain.
Be prepared to make way for large commercial ships and barges.
And use a chart--like a commercial, waterproof version that combines the NOAA Hudson River charts.
08-22-2013 12:56 PM
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??


You can also grab a slip or mooring at the 79th st boat basin
Marinas : West 79th Street Boat Basin : NYC Parks

Cool place to stay with a GREAT location. If you use a mooring you will need your own dink to / from the marina. Note that the current can be wicked inside the marina, so be aware of that when you get in/out of slips.

I stayed there a few years ago and it was real cool to walk off the boat and by in central park in 5 minutes.

08-21-2013 09:51 PM
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

Not sure about anchoring near either the Statue of Liberty or Ellis Island. Outside channels it is shallow and wakes would drive one nuts. You can anchor quite comfortably at the south end of Liberty State Park behind a partly intact breakwater. Start by following the channel toward the S of L dock. As you near the dock where the ferries tie up you will see a series of spar buoys contuing westward. Follow these toward the small anchorage, the water in is good. There is a dock ashore at the boat launch but if you want to leave your dinghy there you probably want to lock it.
08-21-2013 07:52 PM
Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

I thank all of you for the quick response. Very useful info. I would like as much info about the trip as possible. The name of the sailboat is L'Chaim!!! If your interested in seeing her I can stop along the way around sept 6!

Any further tips would be appreciated.
08-21-2013 06:43 PM
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

The anchorage by the statue is wide open. Commercial traffic will rock you at all times, and weather can give you a nice roll as well. But, it is free. You might want to rig a trip line on the anchor because like most old harbors, NY has a foul bottom in many places. Or you could tack another day or two onto the trip, head down to Sandy Hook and take a look past the VZ Bridge while you're coming down all that way.

Do check the tides, you can get a two knot boost if you time the trip on the right days. Current will be strongest further down the river, IIRC.
08-21-2013 06:32 PM
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

Lots to see along the way. Be sure to be on the lookout for the historic mansions. Lots of Bald Eagles as well, especially Iona Island near Bear Mountain and just south of Beacon on Dennings Point. There is also a decent anchorage in Beacon. There is a dingy dock at Beacon Sloop Club, home of the "Woodie Guthry" and you can walk to restaurants and there is a train station there. PM me if you want a ride to the grocery or anything, or just get a drink around Beacon.

This is not by chance L'Chiam listed on craigslist is it? I have been thinking about looking at that boat but it is a bit smaller than I want.
08-21-2013 04:35 PM
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

There is a dock at Croton Yacht Club I've seen transients tie up to overnight.
08-21-2013 03:02 PM
Sal Paradise
Re: Any Advice for sailing Kingston, NY to NYC??

seems like most people make it close to newburgh, from kingston in 1 day. Chelsea, or Whites - the channel is all the way on the west side-- commercial traffic is close to newburgh ... people anchor at Bannermans Island.... just south on the EAST side is Cold Spring Dock which I have found to be friendly ( years ago) and there is a nice town to walk around and find dinner and drinks.

if you stop at Bear Mt, you can pm me if you need anything
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