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10-03-2015 11:10 PM
pdqaltair
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

Curious.

This is a double figure-8. Not easy to tie around an object.
Figure 8 Double Loop | How to tie the Figure 8 Double Loop | Climbing Knots

This is trace figure-8, or figure-8 on a bight, used to tie-in by climbers. Some folks call this a double figure-8, but the nomenclature is incorrect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkac_7WultU
Rock Climbing Knots: Figure Eight

Which are we talking about? I assume we mean a trace figure-8. Not that difficult, but annoying for the purpose and not needed. There are better ways.
10-03-2015 11:01 PM
pdqaltair
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

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Originally Posted by danvon View Post
I might use a locking carabiner. just about as easy to connect as a wire gate and more secure.
a. Only if what you clip is fixed. If clipping a line, no difference, if clipping a fixed point, extended it with a sling.

b. A locking carabiner will probably lock-up with corrosion with this sort of exposure.
10-03-2015 04:08 PM
XSrcing
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

Anchor bend to a carabiner.
10-03-2015 03:06 PM
jrd22
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

I'll second the double figure 8, easy to tie and secure as any knot can be. Even after hanging on one in a harness for hours it's still easy to untie. I use it for a lot of things: harness to halyard, crab/prawn trap to buoy line, painter to dink, anything "important" I don't want to lose.
10-01-2015 12:06 PM
DivingOtter I prefer a double fishermans knot. The best termination knot, more secure than a bowline and bites down hard under load, but, can easily slide and adjusted.
09-26-2015 01:12 AM
danvon
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

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Originally Posted by pdqaltair View Post
Wire gate carabiner.

I might use a locking carabiner. just about as easy to connect as a wire gate and more secure.
09-25-2015 05:11 PM
Barquito
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

Me trying to tie anything but a bowline:

09-25-2015 12:09 PM
KiteRider
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

A bowline is a great knot, but way overused. It is not a secure knot, particularly when subject to loading, unloading forces repeatedly. That's why you'll never see a climber using it. Some of the options listed above are great, and if you do choose a bowline, definitely secure it further somehow, but I would avoid it altogether for that purpose.

Another option is to use a double figure eight, like climbers do. It's a little harder to undo, but not that bad. It is much more secure, which is even more important when using polypropylene line, which tends to be slick and not hold knots very well.
09-20-2015 10:17 PM
pdqaltair
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

Wire gate carabiner.
09-20-2015 09:00 PM
sparrow16
Re: Best knot to attach a painter to a mooring ball?

I've recently discovered the "double bowline" and the "water bowline"

Water Bowline Knot | How to tie a Water Bowline Knot | Boating Knots

As the description notes: "Its name suggests it might have been developed for more secure use in water and Ashley's description starts with "If a Bowline is to be towed through water...."

Fair Winds,

Christine
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