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9 Hours Ago 04:34 AM
Mike Banks
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

Those plates look like copper--and copper and aluminium hate one another. Replace them with stainless steel or plate aluminium--because sooner or later they will destroy one another.

Once you have the inspection ports off--shine a lamp into the tank and see if you can see any light emerging anyplace around the sides. You may even be able to see the leak--an alternative is to connect an air pump to the outlet, block the filler, and pump air into the tank. One can hear it hissing where it emerges--and an ultrasonic detector makes it even easier to pinpoint the leak. Having found it--a simple fix is done with aluminium or stainless steel washers each side, o-rings glued to each side of the tank with neoprene rubber solution, and a bolt of Tuffnel nylon or stainless steel, bedded in o-rings on the inside, and tightened but not TOO tight.

Next time the tank is out, have it welded properly--but get rid if that copper ASAP.
11 Hours Ago 02:23 AM
smackdaddy
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Originally Posted by Matt View Post
have you found that most of the factory wiring is marine grade? the wiring being just normal wire was one of those things i've heard, this may not be credible information. i also read about flexing and some modifications to reduce this. did any of this apply to your boat?
I don't know about all those particulars. What I can say is that it seems to work okay - even after 26 years. Take that for what it's worth.
23 Hours Ago 03:12 PM
seaner97
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

I think the PS MAY be the only one on that list that MIGHT have a bluewater boat. All the others are coastal cruisers that people use to go offshore, but I don't think any of those companies really designed boats that were intended as offshore boats.
23 Hours Ago 02:39 PM
smackdaddy
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Ride out a squall in an exposed anchorage on a J/24 then tell me motion comfort does not exist or is only for "blue water".
A J24 is a bit of an extreme example don't you think? I've sailed a J24. It's not something I'd take on a multi-day offshore run. Ever.

I've also sailed Pearsons, Pacific Seacrafts, Benetaus, Hunters.

Like I've said I find my Hunter 40 every bit as "motion comfortable" in lumpy seas as any of the above.
1 Day Ago 02:11 PM
RainDog Ride out a squall in an exposed anchorage on a J/24 then tell me motion comfort does not exist or is only for "blue water".
1 Day Ago 12:12 PM
Matt
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

have you found that most of the factory wiring is marine grade? the wiring being just normal wire was one of those things i've heard, this may not be credible information. i also read about flexing and some modifications to reduce this. did any of this apply to your boat?
1 Day Ago 12:06 PM
JonEisberg
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
I honestly think the "motion comfort" thing is, in general, a load of crap.
25-30 years ago, back when I was a Young Punk myself, I might have agreed with you...

I'm guessing that you, as I have, will likely 'modify' that assertion to some degree, with the passage of time...

;-)
1 Day Ago 11:23 AM
TakeFive
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
Crossing an ocean isn't necessary to determine whether a "blue water" boat is more "comfortable" than a production boat. You can figure that out pretty quickly in steep, short-period, lumpy seas (which you find quite often "coastal sailing" BTW). I've sailed both types of boat off-shore on multi-day passages in such seas. Not an appreciable difference - which is why I made the statement above.

Furthermore, you need to define exactly what "motion comfort" is and where it comes into play enough to be the make-or-break factor between boats. We had this exact conversation extensively in another thread. So where is that line for you?
I don't know where that line is. I have no intentions of crossing oceans. All I do know, intuitively, is that what I'm willing to tolerate for a few days may be very different than what I would be willing to tolerate for a few weeks. I'd want that experience under my belt before determining what creature comforts I'd sacrifice in exchange for better motion comfort.

Realistically I'm closer to where you are - prefer a coastal cruiser's roominess since I don't ever expect to be offshore for more than a few days at a time. That allows me to pick my weather windows carefully to fit the boat.

But, hypothetically, I think crossing oceans may be a very different matter. You can't pick your weather windows, you can't get out of the way, and the boat may have to be different to have the flexibility to endure passages that are longer than any reliable forecast window.

I have no "skin in this game," and no acual expertise to offer. But this being the Internet, there's nothing to stop me from pretending to be an expert.
1 Day Ago 10:46 AM
smackdaddy
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Originally Posted by TakeFive View Post
That's fine, your opinion is at least as valid as mine. I've never crossed an ocean, so take my opinion with a grain of sea salt.

By the way, how many oceans have you crossed?
Crossing an ocean isn't necessary to determine whether a "blue water" boat is more "comfortable" than a production boat. You can figure that out pretty quickly in steep, short-period, lumpy seas (which you find quite often "coastal sailing" BTW). I've sailed both types of boat off-shore on multi-day passages in such seas. Not an appreciable difference - which is why I made the statement above.

Furthermore, you need to define exactly what "motion comfort" is and where it comes into play enough to be the make-or-break factor between boats. We had this exact conversation extensively in another thread. So where is that line for you?
1 Day Ago 02:56 AM
Matt
Re: 1989 Hunter 40 - A million questions.

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Just wondering, if your coastal cruiser becomes too uncomfortable in the ocean's turbulence, why would you climb into a lifeboat?

A lifeboat is only for when your main vessel sinks ("only step up into the life raft"). I think you're misunderstanding the benefits of a blue water boat for crossing oceans.
I think i was pretty specific as to this being safety gear not comfort gear. you're correct about never stepping into something unless you're stepping up. lots of sailors whove abondoned and found dead in the life raft and later the boats found bobbing around in the ocean. however in terms of "rough weather" you can find that 10 ft from the shore line. i would prefer to avoid being in either type of vessel when things get hairy because i can assure you, neither will be comfortable. its like a storm on a coastal is a punch in the mouth and a storm in a blue water is a slap accross the face, sure the bluewater boat will leave less bruising but it would be wise to avoid the storm. because neither would feel too good
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