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|02-13-2007 09:08 PM|
Just saw this thread. I'm the one who bought that O'Day 27 7tiger7 saw. Some o'day 27s were designed for an outboard, not inboard, and this is one of those. So the engine's not a huge deal. there's a fist-sized hole in the foredeck (looks like a stanchion or bow pulpit base got ripped out). I'm thinking of building an anchor locker up there when I fix this.
I can't tell much about whether the deck is in good shape or if there's deck rot because it was below freezing when I saw the boat. But otherwise the hull, rig, interior, etc looks pretty solid to my non-professional eyes. It came with a lot of equipment as well that seems to be in decent shape (sails, anchor, VHF).
This is my 2nd boat - have a '76 Aquarius 23 (trailerable skiff keel c/b sloop) I'm looking to sell now. So I'm not totally new to this and am hoping it turns out to be a good deal with the right amount of sweat equity.
|01-30-2007 10:53 PM|
O'day boats are typical production type boats. Very similar to other boats like Catalina, Hunter, Newport, S2, Ericson, C&C, Cal, Pearson, etc. I have owned a Catalina 22, Newport 28 and I now have an O'day 35. I have looked at many many boats, and to be honest, in the basic coaster cruiser / racer sloop type, there just isn't that much differene between the boats.
IMHO, any of those boats would be fine for your needs. More important than the manufacturer is the condition of that particular boat. Since you are looking at the low end price wise (nothing wrong with that), there will be a great deal of difference between individual boats.
If your budget is really low stick to boats closer to 25' than to 30'. You will get a nicer boat for the money. If you can increase your budget, a bigger boat will be more comfortable and faster than the smaller boat, but costs increase fast!
|01-30-2007 10:45 PM|
A few slips away from me was an ODAY 27. Granted not the BEST boat out there, but that person liked it, he was the 2nd owner, looked great, sailed reasonably well etc. No it is not a J boat for speed, but in reality, probably on par with a catilina or any other coastal cruiser. They do well here in the pugetsound, san juan islands etc in Northern Wash st and southern BC inland waterways. It would not be, nore was it my first choice for a sailboat when I bought a boat to get back into sailing for the first time in 20 yrs, but, if the price would have been right, spouse would have liked it, it would work, and work well for day sails, weekend etc.
|01-30-2007 06:29 PM|
thanks for all the feedback. I'm pretty handy around boats (grew up on Betrams and such), so sweat equity is not a problem (cash is another issue all together). But I see your points: I can buy something in good shape and well equiped for $5k, or something for $1k which I will pour in $4k - and still not have a boat worth $5k. I guess I'll take a good condition one, or a "bargain" fixer upper (as long as the fixing is just that - fixing; not rebuilding) - as long as both are safe and stable.
So I guess the next question is:
How are Oday 27's overall?
|01-30-2007 06:20 PM|
Sure enough but this one is sold and others are out there to be had cheap. My best freind bought a Hunter 25 for 2 k with outboard motor that sails just fine and is in good condition. His arguement is that after 2 years he will sell it for 2k and if something is really wrong then he will give it away but 2k is pretty cheap to get out on the water. I would not have believed it if I had not seen it myself.
|01-30-2007 06:06 PM|
For sure! One could certainly spend a couple of days bolting in, say, a VW engine bought cheap from a junkyard. Or some other creative option. But at a certain point...you just have to wonder, what else isn't being told about the boat? Little things like, "there's no engine, the right one would cost...". When I shake hands with someone like that, I count my remaining fingers afterwards to make sure I get 'em all back.
|01-30-2007 06:01 PM|
Some people have more money than time and those can be good project boats if such is the case. And you learn about boats in the process.
|01-30-2007 05:56 PM|
Tiger, don't believe everything you read on the internet. If you check out yachtworld.com you'll see those boats typically sell for $5000-$10,000 (asking prices) and there's usually an INBOARD ENGINE.
Apparently the CL poster neglected to mention, he's got no engine and that boat really is supposed to have an inboard. (Yes, you can bolt on anything, no, it probably won't ever sail right, that's a whole other discussion.) Price of installing an inboard engine? You guessed it, more than the price of buying a whole other boat that already has one. Without the soft spot on the deck, and whatever else the seller wasn't being honest about.
There are real bargains to be had out there, but if you're new to boats, and a boat is priced WAY below others, it is time to be very, very, careful. It isn't hard to sell a boat at or near market price--if there's nothing wrong.
|01-30-2007 04:14 PM|
|sailingdog||The real problem on very low-priced boats is they are often what you pay for them... in need of a lot of work in order to make them usable and safe. Often, the cost of re-habbing a cheap/free boat is far more than the cost of getting the same boat in usable and good condition.|
|01-30-2007 03:36 PM|
|pigslo||There are many opportunities to buy an old boat for a few hundred to a few thousand dollars. I say what have you got to lose if it floats and sails, you have spilled more money than that on the rug at a strip joint!|
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