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09-13-2013 11:39 PM
PaulinVictoria
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

A splice is longer but narrower than a knot, so for this particular application where the two blocks are never going to be close together (unless something is seriously wrong!), but you do want the line to run nicely between them as the lines are likely to be running quite close together, a splice is still the best solution IMHO, but whatever, the PO can do whatever he likes, his boat
09-10-2013 04:12 PM
pdqaltair
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

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Originally Posted by PaulinVictoria View Post
Learn how to splice and do it properly, takes up less space than a knot and once you've done it a few times it's pretty straightforward, will only take you 10 minutes and you'll end up with a much better and nicer looking result.
No.

A splice is far longer than a knot, every time.

Splices can jam in blocks (fatter than rope, bad if it happens at the masthead).

You can cut off a knot and refresh wear spots. Can't do that with a splice (can't splice old line).

You can untie the knot, remove twist from the line, and re-tie the line.

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There are good places for splices--even more so for 3-strand which doesn't knot as well--but most splices are for looks and not function.

Docklines--a knot often is the way of the chocks or something similar.
Chain--to rope--a knot won't pass the windlass.
Bridles--Often 3-strad (more stretch) and like dock lines.
Amsteel or similar--doesn't knot for beans.
Decorative stuff.

And I can't think of any others that truly matter.

As for sewing/seizing, any book on traditional marlinspike skill will cover it. Fully rigged (old) ships were full of seizings. Protection from sun and chafe can be a problem, but clearly the old timers thought is was sometimes--often--the best answer. Of course, doing it properly isn't really faster than splicing new line, but it often beats splicing old line.

Yes, I know how to splice, can do it quickly and even enjoy it. And I know when it's dumb.
09-09-2013 11:10 AM
zz4gta
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

A splice is nice, but a knot will work just as well.

As long as the blocks aren't right on top of each other, there shouldn't be an issue either way.
09-06-2013 12:51 PM
Jhiggy
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

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Originally Posted by zz4gta View Post
What are you trying to connect? Do you have a picture or drawing?
It will be the far end of my main sheet. It starts at the block with becket at the end of the boom.
09-06-2013 12:46 PM
zz4gta
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

What are you trying to connect? Do you have a picture or drawing?
09-05-2013 02:08 PM
Markwesti
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

I like to splice . I learned how to do it from the site the coastal passage . The one they call the Pro splice is the one I can understand . Hint, start out with new Sta- Set . Not Sta- Set X .
09-05-2013 02:05 PM
PaulinVictoria
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

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Originally Posted by Jhiggy View Post
This seems like it would be the easiest. (Minus the knots) Any reference material on this?
The easiest option is rarely the best option on a boat.
09-05-2013 01:50 PM
Capt Len
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

I thick a splice would be most appropriate. A short splice in 3 stand would allow blocks to ''chocka block' but braided line splice would require some clearance in the sheave and should be well stitched and seized to prevent working out the spice with constant flexing as it runs through the sheave.
09-05-2013 01:38 PM
Jhiggy
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

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Originally Posted by Lake Superior Sailor View Post
Why not sew it . with whipped ends and cross stitching........Dale
This seems like it would be the easiest. (Minus the knots) Any reference material on this?
09-05-2013 02:28 AM
Lake Superior Sailor
Re: Attach Rope to Becket?

Why not sew it . with whipped ends and cross stitching........Dale
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