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09-12-2013 01:43 AM
volfan615
Re: C&C sold......

Yes USWatercraft does manufacture the J-Boat models listed above. However the J/70, J/88, J/95, J/111 are all produced by CCF Composites in Bristol, RI. J-Boats also has licensed builders in Europe, South America, South Africa and China.

USWatercraft does NOT own J-Boats.
09-10-2013 03:45 PM
rugosa
Re: C&C sold......

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
I never heard of any significant level of failed models or service & warranty issues with C&C. Some, as is inevitable, but very little. The only true "failed" model I know of was the Mega and even that sold in the triple digits IIRC.

If you could buy say, the Aston Martin name to use for a sport car you were going to manufacture, would you? Or would you call it the Rugosa GT?
Perhaps 'failed' is a little harsh, but 26', 32, LF39, even the last 27' which performed well but lacked interior headroom, come on, nobody is perfect. Point was that not all models are profitable or well received by the buying public.

And Rugosa GT, think not, it's a Japanese rose.
09-09-2013 10:58 AM
eherlihy
Re: C&C sold......

not my words, but theirs;
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USWatercraft of Warren RI and Tartan Marine Co are pleased to announce that USWatercraft has acquired the exclusive rights to build, develop, distribute and market all new models of the famed C&C Yachts brand from Tartan Marine. "We are extremely excited to carry on the traditions established by the legendary Canadian boat builders who introduced C&C Yachts some 50 years ago. We look forward to building state of the art, beautiful, high quality & competitively priced C&C sailboats, at our 100,000 square ft. facility in Warren, RI." said Randy Borges president of USWatercraft. USWatercraft plans to begin production of its new C&C models this fall.

Tartan Marine Co, builder of Tartan Yachts will no longer produce the C&C 101 and 115 models under the C&C brand, but will reintroduce and build these models under the Tartan brand as the Tartan 101 and 115. "We are pleased to have such an outstanding boat builder as USWatercraft take over the future development of the iconic C&C Yachts brand and focus on servicing the numerous C&C yacht owners around the world, while we, at the same time, can remain laser-focused on marketing, distributing and building the iconic Tartan brand and supporting our loyal Tartan owners throughout the world."said Steve Malbasa, owner of Tartan Marine.
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About US Watercraft, LLC

USWatercraft LLC (USW) manufactures Alerion Yachts, True North Yachts, and North Rip sportfishing boats, formerly built by Pearson Marine Group. Additionally, USW is the licensed US builder of the J/22, J/24, J80, J/105, Farr 30, and Farr 40. Our facility is located in Warren, RI, where we provide world-class service, repairs, re-fits and upgrades of various one-designs, grand-prix, cruising, and power boats.

Now owned by USWatercraft, Pearson has always been about experienced leaders creating markets and capturing competitive advantages through customer focus, innovation and continuous improvement. USWatercraft carries forward Pearson’s rich 50-year history.

History of Pearson Marine Group:

Prior to 2004, Pearson was a division of TPI Composites, LLC in Warren, RI. In 2004, the wind energy and Swimex divisions of TPI were sold, along with the TPI name, allowing investors to capture the value that was created. Those two businesses, which today are TPI Composites, LLC and Swimex, LLC continue to flourish. At the time of these transactions, the marine division, which was not sold, was organized under a newly formed company, Pearson Composites, LLC. Since 2004, that marine business has transformed itself into what it is today, under the ownership of USWatercraft.
I wonder if they are hiring?
09-09-2013 10:40 AM
bljones
Re: C&C sold......

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
I never heard of any significant level of failed models or service & warranty issues with C&C. Some, as is inevitable, but very little. The only true "failed" model I know of was the Mega and even that sold in the triple digits IIRC.

If you could buy say, the Aston Martin name to use for a sport car you were going to manufacture, would you? Or would you call it the Rugosa GT?
Actually, "Rugosa GT" has a nice ring to it. Better than Cizeta-Moroder or Iso Rivolta.
09-09-2013 02:58 AM
SloopJonB
Re: C&C sold......

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Originally Posted by rugosa View Post
definitely a trail of failed models, changes in ownership, service and warranty dilemas.

So, why not a new brand?
I never heard of any significant level of failed models or service & warranty issues with C&C. Some, as is inevitable, but very little. The only true "failed" model I know of was the Mega and even that sold in the triple digits IIRC.

If you could buy say, the Aston Martin name to use for a sport car you were going to manufacture, would you? Or would you call it the Rugosa GT?
09-08-2013 12:23 PM
Alex W
Re: C&C sold......

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Originally Posted by Dog Ship View Post
There was no mention of TPI specifically, only that USW had purchased J-Boat in December along with the other manufacturers I mentioned earlier.
USW owns the boat portions of TPI.

First they split the company into boats and not boats. Boats were named Pearson Marine:
Pearson Composites emerges from TPI split

Then US Watercraft bought those assets:
US Watercraft acquires three boat brands

US Watercraft doesn't own J-Boats, they just make licensed versions of them for the US Market. J-Boats doesn't make anything themselves.

It sounds like US Watercraft now owns Pearson, C&C, Alerion, True North, and maybe others. Hopefully they do some interesting work with these names.
09-08-2013 11:44 AM
rugosa
Re: C&C sold......

It's been so long since C&C faultered (first April 11, 1985, then 1990, then 1995). I worked for C&C, sail regularly on one, they are great boats. Like Miatapaul says, "Tartan never really did much good with the name". Does the name (or Pearson, Morgan, Cal, etc.) really carry enough significance today to generate sufficient sales to cover the massive R&D, tooling & marketing costs to resurrect the name and turn a real profit? As much as the name is highly respected, very much so by the legion of happy owners (and wanna be) of boats dating back to the 60's (with a significant decline in new boat sales volume over the years), why bother? Does the name really generate sales?

All the names that brought boat design, construction, performance and winning hardware from 1960's to 1990's are just that, names from the past. They have great followers & great significance, and definitely a trail of failed models, changes in ownership, service and warranty dilemas.

So, why not a new brand?
09-08-2013 10:48 AM
miatapaul
Re: C&C sold......

Wow J-Boat, Aileron Express and C&C all under one roof, could be a real powerhouse if they do it right. If they build quality boats and stand behind them they should be a real good upper tier boat company. Perhaps they can bring C&C back to life again. Tartan never really did much good with the name.
09-08-2013 09:38 AM
Dog Ship
Re: C&C sold......

There was no mention of TPI specifically, only that USW had purchased J-Boat in December along with the other manufacturers I mentioned earlier.
I have no idea what is going to happen with PMG.
They did mention that production at US Watercraft was to commence in the fall of this year. No word on availability.
The email was from Tartan, so they are not going to comment on anything other than Tartan related news.
09-07-2013 04:43 PM
Alex W
Re: C&C sold......

Yeah, TPI owns/owned Pearson last I could find. It's not clear from this story and related ones if TPI is now part of US Watercraft, but it sounds like it might be.

Someday I'd like to get hull drawings for my Pearson 28-2, just to better understand the underwater shape. It's not anything unique, I just want to understand hull form better and I've sailed this boat in many different conditions.
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