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09-11-2013 01:34 PM
mad_machine
Re: how old is too old?

My classic plastic is 50 years old this year. the 20th Sea Sprite 23 built. Aside from gelcoat crazing and some questionable holes drilled into the 'glass, all it needs is for me to finish sanding 6 layers of paint off and applying my own and she will look like new.

Old boats (like mine) that date from the dawn of 'glass are often very overbuilt and often are un-cored, so you do not have to worry about soggy balsa embedded into the 'glass

Being uncored does mean they are a bit more flexable on deck and in the hull itself, but they often "bounce" back from hits rather than cracking
09-07-2013 04:51 PM
steve77
Re: how old is too old?

I have a 1966 Pearson Triton. It's built like a little tank. I believe the Triton was the first production fiberglass boat built in the US, and there are still lots of them out there merrily sailing around.
09-07-2013 03:17 PM
Tenoch
Re: how old is too old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex W View Post
I don't really think it matters if the boat is 20 years old or 50 years old, what matters is how well it has been cared for.
Exactly. 25 years is an arbitrary number. That would mean 1988 or newer now. You sure would be missing out on a lot of great boats.
09-07-2013 01:42 PM
Alex W
Re: how old is too old?

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Originally Posted by JulieMor View Post
"Too old" depends completely on the criteria one sets. When we were doing some intensive research and walking the boats, I eventually set 25 years as the oldest boat I would feel comfortable buying. Some might say 10 years, some 40 years.
I get setting 10 years as the limit. I don't get setting 25 as the limit. At 25 years most of the original sealant is going to be gone and you'll have the most annoying work ahead of you, rebedding everything in the deck and perhaps the hull/deck joint.

Once the boat is over 20 years old and needs major refitting (new standing rigging, running rigging, sails, rebedding, etc) I don't really think it matters if the boat is 20 years old or 50 years old, what matters is how well it has been cared for.
09-07-2013 01:34 PM
boatpoker
Re: how old is too old?

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i would never buy a boat built in the 1980s.

just because it is built in XXXX year, or after, you may be limiting yourself to choices that do not truly meet your requirements or desires.
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09-07-2013 12:56 PM
zeehag
Re: how old is too old?

while i was searching for my ultimate cruising boat, which i really do not own yet---but i will after these renovations are completed!!, i learned that when i set the criteria too rigid, i didnt find what i wanted. through many stages of boat ownership from my first owned by me sailboat in 1990 until i bought htis formosa in 2008, i learned boat building using a mold, gelcoat and mat and roving and resin, what happens and how to do it. i learned how hulls and decks connect and with what methods i should attach hull to deck in the boat i was building in 1991.
prior to this stage i had already learned wood boat building and maintenance, and i had a quick bout with a steel ketch....

i didnt know that excellent fiberglass boats were built in 1958 and 1955, solid to this day and forever---cal and victory are still sailing. jensen wenk in 1958 built a wonderful lil solid drop keel sloop with 24 ft length. awesome boat to this day. sail well and built like a brick sh....... .
funny how they do not blister...lol
the thing about pal-ing around with yacht builders is that one learns stuff never learned by those not pal-ing around with a yacht builder.
i would never buy a boat built in the 1980s. lamination methods were not yet perfected, as is seen by blistering and other problems.
different marques have different problems.
production line boats have different problems than do hand laid glass boats.
each marque is different.

OMG!!!!! never buy a formosa--rodlmao--i heard that so often i laugh to hear it now.

from 1990 to this formosa i went thru ownership of mebbe 15 boats inclusive of one that was a commissioned hand laid 42 ft omg yorktown---only because i could pick my rig and interior was designed by me--dont ask where is that boat--lol--it was delivered to me, but, wrong ex-husband and a chainsaw.
i did NOT want a FORMOSA. no way.never.

now i have, and actively cruise a formosa, i see what all you who say that are missing and envious of my having...
do not down a marque because folks all say words against that marque--you may learn what those voices are wishing they had instead of what they do have.....
when you place stringent parameters on what you want before sailing that particular marque--just because it is built in XXXX year, or after, you may be limiting yourself to choices that do not truly meet your requirements or desires.

learn how boats are built then decide what you want AFTER everything you can sail.
09-07-2013 12:29 PM
manatee
Re: how old is too old?

Quote:
Originally Posted by JulieMor View Post
"Too old" depends completely on the criteria one sets. When we were doing some intensive research and walking the boats, I eventually set 25 years as the oldest boat I would feel comfortable buying. Some might say 10 years, some 40 years. It all depends on what you want from the boat, like how much time do you want to spend sailing vs. how much time on maintenance. That's just one of the many criteria we eventually set for the age of a boat.
You may want to make a distinction between 'How old is the hull?' and 'How old is the stuff inside the hull?' -- the older hulls, made with woven roven & other actual fiberglass cloth & matting, are much better than the ones made by spraying glop out of a chopper gun.
09-07-2013 12:18 PM
JulieMor
Re: how old is too old?

"Too old" depends completely on the criteria one sets. When we were doing some intensive research and walking the boats, I eventually set 25 years as the oldest boat I would feel comfortable buying. Some might say 10 years, some 40 years. It all depends on what you want from the boat, like how much time do you want to spend sailing vs. how much time on maintenance. That's just one of the many criteria we eventually set for the age of a boat.
09-06-2013 07:46 AM
arvicola-amphibius
Re: how old is too old?

My fiberglass boat had her 50th birthday this year. No structural problems, no leaks. Of course over the years she has had new rigging, new sails, new windows, new wiring, a major interior refit, repaint more than once and a new engine. But the hull and deck came up 'good as new and better than many much newer production boats' according to the last survey three years ago.

I will be at room temperature long before this boat is past use-by date.
09-05-2013 01:07 PM
TJC45
Re: how old is too old?

With old boats it's all about condition. I've done a lot snooping around regarding old Pearsons. I researched and found how the boats were equipped coming out of the factory. I managed to figure out how the boats were built and what the more common problems were. I bought every Don Casey book. Armed with this info i put only God knows how many miles on the car driving to see boats.

Here is what I concluded: Old boats are good boats! But this caveat; how much much time and money are you willing to spend bringing the boat back to spec? I looked at everything from turn key to basket cases. Some boats were better than others, but every boat needed something.

In the end i decided not to move forward in that direction. But it wasn't the age of the boats that led me to that decision. If i ever do buy another boat in the 30 plus foot range the Pearsons will get another solid look.

BTW, really like the Pearson 30!
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