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09-09-2013 07:02 PM
Dauntless Brent
Re: A little rigging advice please

Ok, I have my answer. Believe it or not, I have all of the original paperwork that came with the boat. Sanduskysailor, you are correct my friend! According to the paperwork the rigging was 7/32" and at some point was changed to 1/4". I will stay with what I have. Thank you all for your input. Sanduskysailor, big props to you!
09-09-2013 05:32 PM
DRFerron
Re: A little rigging advice please

Island hopping isn't the same as crossing oceans. If that's the limit of your plan, you may not need the upgrade in wire size.
09-09-2013 05:23 PM
Dauntless Brent
Re: A little rigging advice please

I do have the utmost confidence in my Gary Mull designed boat. I plan to head south and then jump over to the Bahamas, followed by heading south and island hopping to Grenada. Since I am not a sail boat designer I was riding the fence as far as the change. This is something that is far beyond my knowledge. Safety is my number one concern and I know that bigger isn't always better.
09-09-2013 05:10 PM
mbetter
Re: A little rigging advice please

It's a bad idea.
09-09-2013 04:37 PM
hriehl1
Re: A little rigging advice please

Do you place more confidence in the engineer who designed your boat, or "the guys at the marina"?

As stated, upping wire size may require you use larger turnbuckles and clevis pins at the terminations. Then you'll be tempted to drill out clevis pin holes in tangs and chainplates instead of upsizing them too... NOW you could be stressing metal beyond its designed loads.

In short, keep with the wire sizes designed for the boat and intended for all the fittings.

That said... if you're planning use beyond the boat's designed intentions... say crossing oceans with lots of weather-related risk, then do up-size... everything, not just the wire.
09-09-2013 04:30 PM
Dauntless Brent
Re: A little rigging advice please

The current rigging is actually in good shape. I don't see any broken wire or rust. I'm stepping the mast to work on the teak spreaders, change my antenna cable, change the work light and check (replace sheaves) if needed.. Now I wonder if I should just go aloft and not even bother stepping the mast.
09-09-2013 04:22 PM
padean
Re: A little rigging advice please

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Originally Posted by Sanduskysailor View Post
Stay with the 1/4". The heavier wire might cause you issues with matching up your turnbuckles and headstay pin sizes. 1/4" is slightly oversized for that boat anyway. 7/32" is used on a lot of 29 footers. The heavier wire will also be more weight aloft which will make the boat heel slightly more.
I agree. While it is true that the 5/16 wire will feel more sturdy in your hands and will be more stout, I doubt that you need the extra strength for this 1974 boat. You didn't mention whether the standing rigging was worn or wearing out. it not, I don't think you need to replace it just to upsize to a larger wire.
09-09-2013 04:12 PM
Sanduskysailor
Re: A little rigging advice please

Stay with the 1/4". The heavier wire might cause you issues with matching up your turnbuckles and headstay pin sizes. 1/4" is slightly oversized for that boat anyway. 7/32" is used on a lot of 29 footers. The heavier wire will also be more weight aloft which will make the boat heel slightly more.
09-09-2013 04:05 PM
Dauntless Brent
Re: A little rigging advice please

Thanks manatee! I really don't see how it could hurt. When I do it, I will be handing the rigger all of the wires. That way I don't have to measure them and have any mistakes on my end.
09-09-2013 03:56 PM
manatee
Re: A little rigging advice please

Good.
Using the same kind of wire, it will be stronger, giving you an extra safety margin.
Another plus, that I hope you never have to test, is that if you start to go overboard, the larger diameter is a bit easier on your hands when you clamp on with an adrenaline-fueled death grip.

P.S. Don't assume anything about the rigging length. Measure each piece. Twice.
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