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09-13-2013 09:27 AM
JonEisberg
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

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Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
I suspect there's a whole lot more to this story. And, I seriously doubt that the charts or GPS Plotter played a significant role in the accident.

Gary
Seriously???

So, you think it was more likely a mere COINCIDENCE that they just happened to fetch up on the first bit of coastline that lay on a straight shot plotted between the harbor entrances of Perth and Antwerp?





Polish captain ran his ship aground as he tried to sail from Scotland to Belgium - and FORGOT that England was in the way | Mail Online
09-13-2013 09:12 AM
smurphny
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

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Originally Posted by GrummanPilot View Post
OK, I can understand making a mistake entering a course on a GPS. But shouldn't someone have been on watch? Unless the weather was really bad, how could they miss seeing England? And if the weather was that bad, shouldn't they have been closely monitoring the GPS screen zoomed in on their location?

I think there's more to this story.
For sure. It seems that people at the helms of some large ships have obtained their credentials from mail order websites. We only hear about the few disasters out of the thousands of competent captains but there are some real jokers out there as evidenced by recent shipwrecks.

I was really referring to the small boat sailor who has no small scale paper charts to see the big picture, buys a Garmin GPS, plots two waypoints and turns on the "highway" screen, not thinking about what might be in between point A and B. It's understandable that someone with 0 experience with electronic nav might make this kind of mistake. It really is difficult to ascertain the details of what lies in between waypoints unless, in planning, you take the time to follow your route in large scale mode. The layers in electronic charts do not show the same things. Sometimes an object will only appear at a certain zoom level on a specific layer. Of course this is not true of ENGLAND:-)
09-13-2013 09:03 AM
travlineasy
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

I suspect there's a whole lot more to this story. And, I seriously doubt that the charts or GPS Plotter played a significant role in the accident.

Gary
09-13-2013 03:42 AM
wind_magic
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

There's just no excuse for that.
09-12-2013 12:55 PM
Harborless
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

Its unreal. Complete reliance on modern technology with complete disregard for dead reckoning, noon sightings, any sort of fixes, ect. ect. For gods sakes charts show these things called islands. Really sad. What a waste.
09-12-2013 12:42 PM
krisscross
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

That potato vodka will do it to you!
09-12-2013 09:53 AM
GrummanPilot
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

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Originally Posted by smurphny View Post
No kidding. It's really easy to set a course on a small screen chartplotter and miss things like small islands, fish traps, rocks, etc. It's something you need to think about when using a limited screen view device. Just plotting waypoints without looking at a small scale chart is inviting disaster.
OK, I can understand making a mistake entering a course on a GPS. But shouldn't someone have been on watch? Unless the weather was really bad, how could they miss seeing England? And if the weather was that bad, shouldn't they have been closely monitoring the GPS screen zoomed in on their location?

I think there's more to this story.
09-11-2013 10:31 PM
Mjfossler
Look at a chart before setting GPS course

Wow, that is something...
09-11-2013 10:15 AM
smurphny
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

No kidding. It's really easy to set a course on a small screen chartplotter and miss things like small islands, fish traps, rocks, etc. It's something you need to think about when using a limited screen view device. Just plotting waypoints without looking at a small scale chart is inviting disaster.
09-10-2013 06:10 PM
manatee
Re: Look at a chart before setting GPS course

Stolen from a signature block:

"This new ship here is fitted according to the reported increase of knowledge among mankind. Namely, she is cumbered end to end with bells and trumpets and clocks and wires. It has been told to me she can call voices out of the air or the waters to con the ship while her crew sleep. But sleep though lightly. It has not yet been told to me that the sea has ceased to be the sea." --Rudyard Kipling
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