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10-27-2013 05:14 AM
Kutter
Re: Learned something(s) today

We used double headsails for any dead downwind sailing if it was going to be more than a few hours, this was mid Atlantic
On the rope cutter front there are three distinct types of cutter to consider the scissor (spurs/gator/stripper) Many disc types serrated or not (prop protector is one) and shaver (quicKutter)
09-16-2013 04:09 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Learned something(s) today

I have a Spurs cutter. Much less expensive than a haul out. Fairly easy to install, when you come out for the winter.

I hit a pot about 30nm off the coast of Boston. We were motoring in absolute dead calm. My wife still swears it had already been cut and was adrift, rather than actually being set out there. It's possible.

The bottom line is, the float was black and half submerged. I didn't see it until it just slipped under the hull. Rather than pull to neutral, as one should, I ridiculously tried evasive maneuvers and grabbed the line. Then went to neutral, like I should have initially!

A quick drop in forward did nothing. Then reverse and I heard it clunk and the float came up from under the boat. Good to go.

The alternative would have been to have to go swimming in the Gulf of Maine in June. I will never be without a cutter again.
09-16-2013 03:44 PM
chucklesR
Re: Learned something(s) today

I've got a cutter, and a inclination to avoid marina's that indicate stray electricity in their marina is so much it's harmful to divers.
09-16-2013 03:10 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Learned something(s) today

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Originally Posted by jimgo View Post
I had a similar thought, Jon, but the cutter idea does have some merit, especially if you're in an area that has lots of crab/fish pots.
Sure, I have a serrated cutter, myself... If you already have the space between the strut and the prop for one, a split version can be installed without hauling the boat. If you don't have the space for one, however, chances are you'll need a new, longer shaft...

A length of spectra run between the trailing edge of the keel and the bottom of the rudder can help, as well - I usually rig one before heading up to Maine...
09-16-2013 03:04 PM
manatee
Re: Learned something(s) today

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Yeah, this could do wonders for one's performance under sail, alright...





Maybe just me, but it just seems SO much simpler to keep your lines/sheets from going overboard, to begin with :-)

It's not so much keeping your lines aboard; I'm thinking more of the junk that's floating around out there. Every time I go beachcombing, I find swathes of netting, and line ranging from monofilament fishing line to hawser an inch in diameter. A couple of years ago, I found 100' of 3/8" three-strand.

I don't know the effect on boat speed, but losing the use of your boat for a week will sure put a crimp in your schedule. The cage pictured above is a home-made unit. There may be more efficient low-drag designs available. Maybe our boat-designer friends know something about them? It would also be helpful if manufacturers had a drag-coefficient table for their products, wouldn't it?
09-16-2013 02:31 PM
jimgo
Re: Learned something(s) today

I had a similar thought, Jon, but the cutter idea does have some merit, especially if you're in an area that has lots of crab/fish pots.
09-16-2013 01:44 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Learned something(s) today

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Originally Posted by manatee View Post
Mobile again! Congatulations!

Have you considered something like this?
...or a cage or deflector? What do they use in Maine? With a gazillion lobster pots in the water, someone must have come up with something! Found one here to give you an idea.
Yeah, this could do wonders for one's performance under sail, alright...





Maybe just me, but it just seems SO much simpler to keep your lines/sheets from going overboard, to begin with :-)
09-16-2013 01:37 PM
jimgo
Re: Learned something(s) today

Both are interesting ideas, thanks! I wonder what the cost difference is between the two.

The cutter doesn't cost much more than a haul-out. So, in some ways, it could be a justified expense. I wonder how well they work.

In the end, I hope not to need either of the solutions again!!!
09-16-2013 01:06 PM
manatee
Re: Learned something(s) today

Mobile again! Congatulations!

Have you considered something like this?
...or a cage or deflector? What do they use in Maine? With a gazillion lobster pots in the water, someone must have come up with something! Found one here to give you an idea.
09-16-2013 12:06 AM
jimgo
Re: Learned something(s) today

Thanks! I read the BoatUS article before, that's part of what had me rethinking the idea of trying to swim at the dock.

They hauled the boat on Friday and got the sheet off. I went there today and tested the system. I didn't leave the slip (alone, somewhat windy, still getting used to the boat), but I confirmed that the transmission went into forward and reverse and that the boat actually moved forward and backward.
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