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09-27-2013 01:40 PM
emcentar
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

For those looking for Harborless' report on his trip:

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...ng-stupid.html
09-26-2013 04:12 PM
RTB
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

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Originally Posted by azguy View Post
Any update on your overnight..??
bump...
09-24-2013 07:30 PM
azguy
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

Any update on your overnight..??
09-22-2013 03:11 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

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Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Personally, I think he should go out for 2 nights, and get far enough offshore to play around in the Stream for a spell, while relying solely on his preference for his traditional means of navigation... By the time he finds Ponce Inlet again, might make him a bit more of a believer in the value of that little GPS thingy... :-)

one learns by being out there.... I use the internet forums to find out information and to discuss stuff. But the learning doesnt come till you are at sea and can see the boat in operation.


And navigating by DR or sextant fixes, whatever, is only possible out of sight of land for a while. And if those buildings are tall that means a fair way out.
09-22-2013 11:54 AM
JonEisberg
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

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Originally Posted by Barquito View Post
2) Set a DR course to return pretty far to one side of your inlet. Then when you reach the coast, there will not be any question which way to turn (unless there are clear navigation aids on land)
In his particular case, that shouldn't be too hard to figure out... N of Ponce Inlet, you have Daytona Beach, the most over-developed stretch of coastline north of Florida's Gold Coast... To the S of the inlet, once other than a smattering of high rise condos at New Smyrna Beach, you have Cape Canaveral National Seashore, completely devoid of any development...

Personally, I think he should go out for 2 nights, and get far enough offshore to play around in the Stream for a spell, while relying solely on his preference for his traditional means of navigation... By the time he finds Ponce Inlet again, might make him a bit more of a believer in the value of that little GPS thingy... :-)
09-22-2013 11:34 AM
Barquito
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

Two small points:

1) Don't have your nav, anchor, and running lights all on at the same... unless you are motoring while anchored

2) Set a DR course to return pretty far to one side of your inlet. Then when you reach the coast, there will not be any question which way to turn (unless there are clear navigation aids on land)
09-21-2013 02:58 PM
Harborless
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

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Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Damn, has ANYONE read his original post? He is NOT going to be crossing from S Florida to the Bahamas on this trip, folks :-)

To the OP, sailing due east of Ponce Inlet for 20 miles or so will put you in pretty busy area, traffic-wise... A lot of southbound shipping attempting to stay inshore of the Stream off Canaveral will pass thru there, as will any northbound traffic rounding Canaveral and heading for Jacksonville or Brunswick... Much of the traffic thru there is seagoing tugs towing barges far behind, the sort of shipping with short-handed crews that make me the most nervous...

It most certainly would not be an ideal area to park yourself for awhile, or go to sleep for any prolonged period of time... Besides, you want to keep sailing thru the night anyway, no? That's what singlehanded sailors do, after all - I don't know of many who routinely heave-to overnight as a matter of course, the sooner you appreciate how rigorous and tiring coastwise solo sailing along the US East coast can be, the better off you will be...

And as others have mentioned, no way do you want to be towing your dinghy out the inlet... And, make sure you will be able to interpret whatever lights other vessels will be showing, particularly those tugs... The barges in tow typically show lights that can be very faint, or difficult to see at all. In any event, you don't want to be anywhere near those guys...

Have fun, and good luck... Mark is right, you'll learn a lot... :-)
Good advice- thanks.

After all the negatives about sleeping and the fact I will be dead reckoning the entire time I think I will plan for no sleep. This way I can stick to the hour log and hopefully be much more accurate in my navigation to and from.

If I get too tired I will bring the egg timer out and set 10 minute windows. Can always use the old Marine Corps trick and put a dull knife under my chin- don't nod off too much with that set up, I assure you.

Will take some video and pics- will be dark though haha.

Froggy- will message you.

Rest- will update as updates allow.

-Harborless out
09-21-2013 09:14 AM
JonEisberg
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

Damn, has ANYONE read his original post? He is NOT going to be crossing from S Florida to the Bahamas on this trip, folks :-)

To the OP, sailing due east of Ponce Inlet for 20 miles or so will put you in pretty busy area, traffic-wise... A lot of southbound shipping attempting to stay inshore of the Stream off Canaveral will pass thru there, as will any northbound traffic rounding Canaveral and heading for Jacksonville or Brunswick... Much of the traffic thru there is seagoing tugs towing barges far behind, the sort of shipping with short-handed crews that make me the most nervous...

It most certainly would not be an ideal area to park yourself for awhile, or go to sleep for any prolonged period of time... Besides, you want to keep sailing thru the night anyway, no? That's what singlehanded sailors do, after all - I don't know of many who routinely heave-to overnight as a matter of course, the sooner you appreciate how rigorous and tiring coastwise solo sailing along the US East coast can be, the better off you will be...

And as others have mentioned, no way do you want to be towing your dinghy out the inlet... And, make sure you will be able to interpret whatever lights other vessels will be showing, particularly those tugs... The barges in tow typically show lights that can be very faint, or difficult to see at all. In any event, you don't want to be anywhere near those guys...

Have fun, and good luck... Mark is right, you'll learn a lot... :-)
09-21-2013 09:13 AM
bblument
Re: Solo Offshore Overnight- Advice Sought

Quote:
Originally Posted by harmonic View Post
I have found whenever i use my nav lights its brings boats to me like moths too a flame I have limited battery power so only turn mine on when I see another boat reasonably close.

What if the the guys on the other boats are also taking your advice? You'd both have your lights off, only turning them on AFTER the collision to to see where all the pieces of your boats floated off to...

I'm not trying to skin you... I don't have the right because I have virtually no experience yet. Your advice on lighting, however, seems quite illogical, Captain. Live long and perspire...

Barry
09-21-2013 08:59 AM
xort I agree that sleeping for over an hour in that area is a VERY bad idea.

How about trying to stay awake for 36 hours aboard while in port to see how you manage. For some, its easy, for some, impossible.
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