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04-07-2017 07:35 PM
pdqaltair
Re: Install anchor chain markers

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Great tip. Thanks.

If and when my current program flops, I may give it a try. Muscling 750lbs of 1/2" chain around the deck/dock would require a good back day. . Suppose it could be done by laying it all on the bottom, and hittitng the colors on the way out.
I've done this with 1/2-inch chain for friends. Just line the bow up with a dock on the other side if possible. Lash the anchor in place, and walk the chain down the dock in ~ 25' flakes as it comes off the windlass. The trick is to have a few helpers.

On my cat, the chain can be taken off the side of the gypsy, straight across the tramp, which makes it child's play. If you can take it off the side, I wonder if it would be worth the time to make a wooden "chute" that would take it off the side and over to the dock. Then the windlass does most of the work.

It is also very easy to do when the boat is hauled for bottom paint, if you remember. Touch-ups are stupid easy, because you don't even measure. You just drop the chain in a pile, and when a mark comes, drape it over the box. Then wind it back up the next day. No dragging it around at all.
04-07-2017 12:33 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Install anchor chain markers

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Originally Posted by pdqaltair View Post
Drape the chain sections to be painted across/inside an open box. Trivially easy. They dry quickly, the box catches the over spray, you can paint all sides, and they hang free until dry. It's so neat I paint mine on deck. I've done this 3 times without issue.

It is just about knowing how--my first article sold to Good Old Boat illustrated the method.
Great tip. Thanks.

If and when my current program flops, I may give it a try. Muscling 750lbs of 1/2" chain around the deck/dock would require a good back day. . Suppose it could be done by laying it all on the bottom, and hittitng the colors on the way out.
04-07-2017 12:30 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Install anchor chain markers

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Originally Posted by colemj View Post
We used those plastic insert things for a couple of months. First thing that happened is they all quickly stained the same color (New England and Chesapeake anchoring), so were impossible to know where one was in the chain unless one counted closely. Second thing that happened is when anchoring in mud, if we didn't get the chain perfectly clean and some mud was still stuck in the links, you couldn't tell where the markers were when random sections of chain had mud in it. Third thing was they all started randomly falling out until I just got fed up with them.
That's the pretty standard report, but I'm having much better luck.

The white do get dirty and are a bit tougher to notice, as a result. The others have not stained, certainly not enough to disguise their actual color. You need to see them on the way down, so I'm not sure why mud is a big issue, which we anchor in frequently. We spray our chain with a washdown pump on the way up. I also hit the locker with a minute or two of fresh water when I'm cleaning up at the dock. Maybe that's the departure from norm.

As I said, I put four of the same color in adjacent links. I've had one fall out, but the three are still noticeable. If they are all on the same plane (i.e. inserted in every other link) you can miss them, if you are looking down at the chain and they go through the windlass sideways. Learned that one quickly, however.
04-07-2017 10:39 AM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Install anchor chain markers

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Originally Posted by colemj View Post
We used those plastic insert things for a couple of months. First thing that happened is they all quickly stained the same color (New England and Chesapeake anchoring), so were impossible to know where one was in the chain unless one counted closely. Second thing that happened is when anchoring in mud, if we didn't get the chain perfectly clean and some mud was still stuck in the links, you couldn't tell where the markers were when random sections of chain had mud in it. Third thing was they all started randomly falling out until I just got fed up with them.

I really wanted them to work because they seem like a good idea in principal, but for us, they were awful in practice.

Mark

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04-07-2017 10:37 AM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Install anchor chain markers

Mine are at 12m, 22, 32, 42 etc to 70m

The 2 is bow roller to water. So in effect they are 10m intervals.

The plastic things between the links are bullrwaddle. Can't see them. So I supliment with cable ties.

Color scheme is
R red
Y yellow
B blue
W white
G green

Rub Your balls With Grease. And is standard for many boats but not all.
04-07-2017 10:29 AM
pdqaltair
Re: Install anchor chain markers

[QUOTE=Minnewaska;3884345... drying it off, painting without overspray all seem like a lot of work for such as small project.[/QUOTE]

Drape the chain sections to be painted across/inside an open box. Trivially easy. They dry quickly, the box catches the over spray, you can paint all sides, and they hang free until dry. It's so neat I paint mine on deck. I've done this 3 times without issue.

It is just about knowing how--my first article sold to Good Old Boat illustrated the method.
04-07-2017 10:23 AM
colemj
Re: Install anchor chain markers

We used those plastic insert things for a couple of months. First thing that happened is they all quickly stained the same color (New England and Chesapeake anchoring), so were impossible to know where one was in the chain unless one counted closely. Second thing that happened is when anchoring in mud, if we didn't get the chain perfectly clean and some mud was still stuck in the links, you couldn't tell where the markers were when random sections of chain had mud in it. Third thing was they all started randomly falling out until I just got fed up with them.

I really wanted them to work because they seem like a good idea in principal, but for us, they were awful in practice.

Mark
04-07-2017 08:36 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Install anchor chain markers

I bought the Imtra chain markers many years ago and didn't install them until I replaced my chain about two seasons ago. I use four markers, of the same color, in a row, at each marked length, and one has fallen out here and there. I have extras to replace the missing. Many complain that they all fall out, but so far, not bad for me. They may work better on larger links, who knows. Paint would be substantially less expensive, but these are working for me. Pulling my chain out, drying it off, painting without overspray all seem like a lot of work for such as small project.

I put Red at 50ft, White at 100ft, Blue at 150ft, Yellow at 200ft and mixed colors at 250ft and just before the full 300ft would be deployed. I also put a label on the windlass control so one doesn't need to remember (R50,W100,B150.....). I still count seconds off in my head, old habit.

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04-07-2017 07:55 AM
colemj
Re: Install anchor chain markers

We use 11" cable ties and leave the tails - starting with black: 1@50', 2@75', 3@100', 4@125' - then switch to white: 1@150', 2@175', 3@200', 4@250'.

So it is a pattern that repeats in black, then white.

Don't see a need for marking less than 50' since that seems to usually be a minimum that goes out anyway. If we want less, it is easy enough to guess (it is 15' from the water to our windlass).

The zip ties go through the windlass with no problem, but sometimes get broken or chewed on the bottom. We anchor almost continuously year-round and I have to replace a random tie maybe twice a year. It isn't any problem to know where to replace it because only the tail breaks and the rest is still secured to the chain.

In the dark, I just feel the chain as it goes up/down for the tails to pass my hand (it is 8' from our roller to the windlass, so not very dangerous to have my hand lightly against the chain 4' away from the busy ends).

Mark
04-07-2017 06:22 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: Install anchor chain markers

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Originally Posted by twoshoes View Post
Took me a second to realize I wasn't looking at regular sized chain with some oddly posed action figures.
That is regular sized chain. Not the little necklace chain we use. *grin*
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