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09-22-2013 11:02 PM
Southron Spirit
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

my boat looks like the cockpit drain tubes are car radaiator hoses
09-15-2013 12:14 AM
blobaugh
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

You should be able to use any of the standard flexible plumbing you can find at a hardware store. Talk to the plumbing department.
09-14-2013 01:29 PM
riverspirit
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

Having some trouble with the cockpit drain tubing. The corrugated flexible tubing I found comes in one foot sections with a smooth part every foot to cut for a fitting connection. The length I need is a few inches more than the foot section and two feet is too long. The clear kind of flexible tubing that can be cut to any length fits but the bend below the cockpit causes it to kink. I'm thinking of adding a coupling to join the two different tubes. Anyone run into this situation or have a suggestion? Thanks.
09-14-2013 08:49 AM
SailRedemption
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

I wouldn't be too confident in upwind without the cb.. It's hardly a shoal keel. It slides more than you think. Before I fixed my cable, the cb was up when I sailed it to my boatyard, it had to stop because it wouldn't go straight. Had to just use the outboard. It really doesn't point at all with it up.

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09-13-2013 10:13 PM
blobaugh
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

The cockpit drain tubes are a common point of failure on these boats. Definitely something good to keep in mind during your inspections.
09-13-2013 09:54 AM
riverspirit
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

My understanding about this boat is that there is 1000 lbs. of lead ballast in the shoal keel the centerboard swings into. So even without the board I should still have most of the stability. So there is no safety issue. The only problem I see is not being able to point to the wind as well. The shoal keel looks substantial enough to prevent most of the crabbing.

I managed to snake a wire through the cable tubing but still have a piece of broken cable stuck at the end, still giving it a chance to unclog before installing new tubing.

A new problem I found, and glad I found, is the cockpit drain flexible tubing that drains to the back thru-hull fittings deteriorated to the point I could poke my finger into it. The hose clamps have rusted off the upper connection and the lower can't be removed because of rust. The thru hull fitting don't look great so I will replace them as well as the tubing. IT is not complicated just difficult to access. This could have sunk me. Although this boat does have positive buoyancy as I discovered in the hurricanes of 2004 when another boat adrift put a hole in mine. I was able to bring back up by bailing with a 5 gallon bucket all day.
09-13-2013 02:50 AM
SailRedemption
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

Not only that but the CB keeps you point straight and not letting the wind push you diagonally because you have nothing underwater to keep you in a straight line minus the rudder. I wouldnt sail mine without it down. it doesn't sail straight, (see: crabbing or sailing diagonally)
09-12-2013 03:23 PM
blobaugh
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

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Originally Posted by Southron Spirit View Post
i have been sailing mine for over a year with no swing keel installed
if you store your boat on a trailer be sure and read the posts about what happens when the keel is down and gets hung up in the trailer
Be careful doing this. The swing keel helps to stabilize your boat when you are going upwind. It provides righting motion. Without it there (or down) your boat will be much tippier and unstable in high winds.

That said, I did not have a swing keel at all on Zippey for the first year I owned her and did not even realize it. The previous owner told me the swing keel was locked down. Ben Lobaugh Online Ľ ZDD: Lucky sailing this summer
09-12-2013 01:41 PM
Southron Spirit
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

Quote:
Originally Posted by riverspirit View Post

If I were to choose between leaving the swing keel down or up, which would be best? There are a lot of shoal areas around but enough room to sail in the deeper water here in east central Florida. I will not be trailering.
i have been sailing mine for over a year with no swing keel installed
if you store your boat on a trailer be sure and read the posts about what happens when the keel is down and gets hung up in the trailer
09-09-2013 02:51 AM
blobaugh
Re: Spirit 23 keel cable conduit blocked

I cut the old stuff out of mine when I had it out last. Put in a new plastic tub to relieve the strain. Unfortunately I did not take any pics of it.

I did not go to the extremes of BoatyardBoy and I have not had any issues, though BoatyardBoy's solution is probably better for the cable in the long run.
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