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10-05-2013 10:37 AM
dabnis
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

I have used this for many years on many different motors:

Fuel Additives / Treatments | Berryman Products

Works as advertised, no affiliation. Be careful, it can remove paint, hot stuff.

Paul T
10-05-2013 10:11 AM
capecodda
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

Don't think this is a brand issue w/Honda. My little Suzuki 2.5 does the same thing, now i run it dry unless I'm using it every day. I've gotten pretty good at removing and cleaning the little carb.
10-05-2013 09:46 AM
Sal Paradise
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

Take it from me Tim,, you better learn how to tear that carb down and clean and reassemble it. I do it 3 times a year, whenever my outboard gets bitchy. Takes an hour.

One day when you are rebuilding the carb on your tender in the water next to a tropical island , you can thank me for this advice. It will be so simple that you will wonder how you ever bothered to take it to someone else.
10-05-2013 08:31 AM
Mechsmith
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

Oop's Donna,

I was trying to point out that the OP's problems probably will not be rectified simply by changing manufacturers.

All manufacturers must follow certain laws of physics and mechanics. The smaller the motor the smaller the passages must be. Since the problem has shown up in some 50 year old vehicles as well as brand new ones it is probably not permantly curable.

Basically it is the propensity of ethanol to attract water which then forms a gum. Very sticky stuff. However as I pointed out it is generally water soluble, at least in fresh water.
10-04-2013 08:04 PM
DRFerron
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

No politics in this thread, please. Take it to OT. Thanks.
10-04-2013 06:05 PM
Mechsmith
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

[QUOTE=lunaticgt;

As for ethanol being to blame, I think mfrs should be able to make a product that functions on the fuels available rather than make a product for which there is no correct fuel in existence. I mean, ethanol is not exactly new and I have no other motors, from my weed whacker to my lawn tractor, etc. that have had any ethanol related problems after years of ethanol use without even an additive. I am sorry, but I don't fall for this blame game and so not only is this my first Honda product, it is my last. Thanks to the tech for supplying the diagrams though so maybe I can try to get mine running and sell it next season.[/QUOTE]

Governments mandate ethanol for political reasons. In the US they require health warnings and otherwise discourage the use of tobacco products. They also subsidize farmers that grow tobacco.

The gov't mandates fuel economy standards. They also mandate the use of a fuel that lowers fuel economy.

As a Vietnam veteran we destroyed villages to save them.

We also baptized native Americans before we killed them.

I think that Honda is doing its best. I have had the problems as a mechanic ever since the gov't began to think for us. The problem is also in Fords, Willys Mercurys, and Stihs and assorted weed eaters.. Clean out the old fuel as well as you can. Fortunetly the gum left by the ethanol usually can be washed out with hot soapy dishwater.

Honda, and the other manufacturers have to meet EPA requirements also. These requirements may have little to do with practicality.

Consider that the more problems that the government makes for the people the more secure are the jobs and fiefdoms for those that help solve our problems.
10-04-2013 04:27 PM
MarkSF
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

Did you run the carb dry after each time you ran it?
10-04-2013 03:28 PM
lunaticgt
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

I have the same issue with a 2013 2.3 that is 3 months old. Used 3 times, not even out of break-in yet. Sat for about 1 month upright in my garage. Now, full choke is required to start it each time. Then it will only run on about 1/3 choke. Note that the choke does not stay where you put it either so you can't actually use it like that. Gas had ethanol treatment in it.

As for ethanol being to blame, I think mfrs should be able to make a product that functions on the fuels available rather than make a product for which there is no correct fuel in existence. I mean, ethanol is not exactly new and I have no other motors, from my weed whacker to my lawn tractor, etc. that have had any ethanol related problems after years of ethanol use without even an additive. I am sorry, but I don't fall for this blame game and so not only is this my first Honda product, it is my last. Thanks to the tech for supplying the diagrams though so maybe I can try to get mine running and sell it next season.
07-08-2013 02:56 PM
MarkSF
Re: New Honda 2.3 outboard not running

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaribDream View Post
This engine is only about a month old. Oldest gas would be 2 weeks and all I run is super 93 octane. I could understand if I had fuel that was a month or more old - but that's not the case. If Honda wants to charge me on this, I'll be moving to another brand plain and simple.
If you did not run the carb dry or drain it after the first two trips, that is sufficient to block the jets on these little carbs.

Edit : just saw your last post. Cool. But I still recommend running dry at least, or draining better still.
07-08-2013 02:41 PM
CaribDream
Follow up

Got a call from the service guy. He found some debris in the gas tank, said it looked like a possible spider or spore of some sort. He said that Honda Tech gave him the discretion to decide if warranty should cover the work and he gave the go ahead. I will pick up the motor tomorrow. This is good news. While I can not rule out that the debris came from me, I can not rule out that it came that way from the factory either. I am always very conscious of this sort of thing too. Since it happened only 3 weeks I lean towards it being from the factory. Obviously I am also biased. Either way, hopefully I'm back in business.
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