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10-17-2013 11:32 AM
zz4gta
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

Strip the boat during the winter. Run messenger lines. A good finished halyard can easily run you $400+ for a decent sized boat. For a basic 3 halyard setup, that's 1200+.
10-16-2013 08:45 PM
Omatako
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

We sail all the way through winter which would be tough without running rigging . . . .
10-16-2013 08:28 PM
smurphny
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

I always remove all the halyards when putting the boat up for any amount of time. UV is tough on expensive line. I just buy some cheap 1/4" nylon or poly, attach the bitter end of the halyard and run them up through the sheaves/blocks and tie them off nice and tight. Have never had a problem doing this. I need to get some dedicated small line and hide it somewhere because it always seems to get used for something else and is not there when needed. Presently, my spinnaker halyard is still up, rotting in the sun because I could not find another piece of small line to do this last halyard before buttoning the boat up. Grrrrr.
10-16-2013 04:53 PM
pdqaltair
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

Perhaps it depends on what your time is worth to you as well. Personally, I can't see it. If there is chafe, I end-for-end them, but generally there is not; if there is, something is wrong. They last 10+ years anyhow; by that time I'll be re-rigging something.

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10-16-2013 02:18 PM
mbsl98
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

I never used to pull the running rigging. Then I replaced all of the lines on my catboat three years ago and realized just how expensive those little buggers are. Well over $1k for Endura 12 lines on my 22. It is a cat, with 8 lines for that one sail, but still, significant. I now clean and store the lines at home, which has the side benefit of keeping them looking much fresher compared to the grey weathered look of older lines.
10-07-2013 02:28 PM
Sabreman
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

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The advantage is that I am preventing UV damage on all but the ends of the line. If necessary, I can splice a new eye in the halyards.
After a number of years of weathering, I flip the halyards end for end, putting a new eye on the old tail. Since half our halyards are always inside the mast, this exposes shiny new line. The combination of removing lines each winter and flipping them at half life, gives me at least 10 years out of a halyard.

To me, old, moldy lines are depressing as are rat's nest piles of uncoiled lines lying on deck. There is an old saying that "ye can tell the measure of a sailor by the way they keep their lines" or something salty like that. I think that it's quite true.
10-06-2013 04:10 PM
eherlihy
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

Hi csharp56,

I also live in MA, but keep my boat in RI. Every year I attach one messenger line to all of my halyards, and run them up the mast. In the spring, I carefully pull them back down.

The advantage is that I am preventing UV damage on all but the ends of the line. If necessary, I can splice a new eye in the halyards.

Regarding the roller furling line; I remove it and store it with the jib sheets in the V berth.

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10-06-2013 03:49 PM
Gary M
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

I take all of my halyards and all running rigging home every fall and wash it all in warm water and soap then and I use fabric softener on it. You will be surprised at how dirty your water gets and how much softer they all are when dry.

I just duct tape about 4 inches of small messenger line to my halyards and pull them through. Of course I take my mast down every year so if one lets go it is not a big deal to fish it back though.

Don't use a natural fibre like sisal as it will rot by spring and give you major headache. Don't ask how I know this
10-06-2013 11:17 AM
fallard
Re: To store halyards or leave on mast?

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Originally Posted by xort View Post
A thin messenger line will suffice...but thin line can jump the sheave and wedge next to it, jamming. Either make darn sure you keep it tight or use a thicker messenger.

Its a good idea to stitch lines together with some whipping when pulling one line thru with another. Tape-only works until it doesn't!
Agree that a thin messenger can jump a sheave, but keeping the messenger-halyard pair under tension will likely prevent that. In 16 years I've never had the 1/8" messengers jump a sheave.

I do agree that taping the messenger to the halyard is a recipe for disaster. I've used the tape method for running wires in a cableway, as it provides for a "fair" transition, but it is a risky technique and doesn't work well with sharp bends.
10-06-2013 08:51 AM
xort A thin messenger line will suffice...but thin line can jump the sheave and wedge next to it, jamming. Either make darn sure you keep it tight or use a thicker messenger.

Its a good idea to stitch lines together with some whipping when pulling one line thru with another. Tape-only works until it doesn't!
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