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02-05-2007 06:54 PM
rtbates
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingfool
Boats like the Wetsnail and Channel Cutter would be most at home running Niagrga Falls, about the only water application where their excessive weight is a plus...and poor sailing performance immaterial.
Hey sailingfool at least you got your name right!!! You fool!!
02-02-2007 02:29 AM
sailingfool Micoverde,
I'm probably not the only poster around here who is foolish about sailing and his boat (I certainly have enough receipts to be certified).
It's impressive to see how you've made use of your W32, certainly testimony to what the boat is capable of. I guess I've gotten a little jaded by armchair sailors who trot out the W32 as an epitomie of the offshore yacht when they're only going across the bay, and am surprised to bump into someone who's actually out there. I bite my tongue.
Hmmm, for $55k you could be cruising in a CS 36T....
02-01-2007 07:44 PM
tdw Personally I'm not a huge fan of the "Colin Archer" type although I understand why some people love them and they do look fabulous. One of the advantages of this kind of boat, particularly the gaff rigged versions, is that with a long boom and relatively large mainsail they often have very respectable performance on a reach or a run (wing and wing) without the use of a spinnaker. Prior to the advent of easier handling systems for spinnakers and the introduction of cruising chutes very few single or short handed cruisers would use anything other than standard working sails. Given that 'gentlemen do not sail to windward' reaching performance was more important than pointing when it came to earlier cruising concepts. Today with socks to control lightwind running and reaching that advantage is somewhat diminished. This can also partially explain the earlier popularity of ketches, with the ability to set a mizzen staysail making up for lower efficiency compared to a masthead sloop or cutter.
01-31-2007 08:06 PM
micoverde I see why your handle here is "SailingFool."
01-31-2007 03:15 PM
sailingfool
Just like barrells

Quote:
Originally Posted by rtbates
If you like the WS you might want to check one of my personal favorites the Bistol Channel Cutter. Like the WS they are heavy full keel boats, more at home off shore. A true blue water boat. http://roguewaveyachtsales.com/rogue...uewave_11.html

randy cape dory 25D Seraph #161
Boats like the Wetsnail and Channel Cutter would be most at home running Niagrga Falls, about the only water application where their excessive weight is a plus...and poor sailing performance immaterial.
01-30-2007 06:43 PM
rtbates If you like the WS you might want to check one of my personal favorites the Bistol Channel Cutter. Like the WS they are heavy full keel boats, more at home off shore. A true blue water boat. http://roguewaveyachtsales.com/rogue...uewave_11.html

randy cape dory 25D Seraph #161
01-30-2007 04:46 PM
sailingfool
Slooooooooooooow

Quote:
Originally Posted by micoverde
....Not as slow as you think ...
Yikes, why resurrect this one.

Slow is of course relative, but Jeff above quoted a PHRF rating of 238 which puts the Wetsnail 32 right up there with a Rhodes 19.
01-30-2007 02:50 PM
micoverde
westsail 32 comments

Wow - some really good info from people here (and some of the usual stuff from people who don't know the W32 very well).

Bottom line: yup, a "mixed bag." Not as slow as you think - just sailed ours from Vanuatu to Bundaberg Australia and turned two back to back 175 nm days (Ok, we were in a Hurricane - TC Xavier). A new mainsail for everyday use and a-spinn for light stuff make a big difference.

Checkout our cruising site here: http://www.micoverde.com/
SY Mico Verde
09-21-2006 07:16 PM
SV:HERON
Westsail 32

I love reading about negative comments regarding the "infamous" W-32. Surprisingly, most of those who criticize the Westsails have never been on one.

I have owed a Ranger 33, Ranger 28, Pearson 33 and now a Westsail 32. I was also fearful about the reputation of these boats but knew a couple good friends who owned them and loved them. My goals were to find a strong, seaworthy vessel for long distance sailing for six months at a time. I certainly looked at many boats but the Westsail just met all my needs at an affordable price (not cheap however).

After two years of ownership, my Westsail does very well under most wind conditions. At 8 knots of wind I am able to make over 4 knots by GPS readings. A bit less dead down wind. At under 5 knots, I don't move much at all, perhaps 1.5 knots. My sails are a fully battened main and a 110 jib 90% of the time.

Often, I pass other vessels along the way and they always ask if my engine is running....it is NOT. Even on a light air day (about 5 knots) I passed a lovely Albin Vega wing on wing with just my mainsail up.

When the wind does blow around 10, I can easily keep up over 5 knots of boat speed. I winds around 12-15, I can beat at 6.3 knots and reach about 6.8 knots. It sails wonderfully from 15 to 40 knots with hull speed over 7 knots and my fastest speed was 7.75 knots.

Given her weight and waterline length, I don't really know what everyone is talking about. One weakness is tacking this vessel which takes some practice. It took me many outings before learning how to tack efficiently without loosing too much speed. For this reason, she is not a "round the boueys" racer.

Here is what I can say about my W-32. It is the best vessel I've ever owned thus far. She has tons of room inside, has the safest decks than any boat out there, looks salty as hell, and can keep you alive and safe under just about all situations. Don't try this with your Catalina!
11-17-2001 04:13 AM
StarrySky
westsail 32

Like any other boat, a Westsail has certain advantages and disadvantages compared to other designs. The key to properly choosing ANY boat is to make an honest assessment of how you cruise, where you cruise, and your personal sense of aesthetics.

You mentioned in your post that you were interested in coastal cruising predominantly, and if this is true the Westsail would indeed be a poor choice. Nobody in their right mind would buy a WS to race around buoys on Long Island Sound, the Chesapeake or any other body of water characterized by light and possibly non-existant winds. That''s what Catalinas, Hunters and their like excel at. Having sailed a Seidlemann 29 up here on L.I. Sound for four years, I can personally attest to this.

Westsails excel in other areas. For instance, I live on my WS32. I don''t bitch about how "slow" she is in light winds, because for the way I cruise having 120 gallons of drinking water and 60 gallons of diesel are more important. Try that in many 32 foot boats! I don''t complain about not being able to point as far upwind as in the Seidelmann because it''s more important for me to have spacious, workable decks, a roomy interior and enough storage capacity to last for months on a long voyage. Sure, she''s heavy as all hell, but is that really a bad thing? Personally, I like knowing that there''s an inch of fiberglass near the keel and that the whole boat is over-built in terms of its hull and rigging. Perhaps these are negatives is for your needs, but not for mine. When offshore, I prefer to feel a strong, heavy boat under me that has a slow riding motion through the seas, rather than popping up and down like a cork on a light displacement racer-cruiser.

If you''re going to cruise for a week or two at a time along the coast, and the speed of getting "there" is more important to you than getting there in comfort with a high degree of safety, the Westsail would probably be a poor choice.

However, if you plan to live aboard and cruise, and I''m not talking about sailing out to Block Island and Nantucket for two weeks either, then check out the Westsail Association on the web, it''s easy to find.
Additionally, you might consider doing some research on the ultimate stability (mathematic formula)of various sailboats and see how the WS32 compares to some others.

Why all this badmouthing about Westsails, anyway?
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