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38 Minutes Ago 02:36 PM
jerryrlitton
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by Minnesail View Post
I love the vertical look. To me the long overhangs of old boats look pretty, but kind of quaint like you'd find in a Kincade painting.

The modern vertical bows look aggressive and fast. I like 'em.

But again, eye of the beer holder and all.
I liked the swept back, guillotine look. That looks fast. And the overhangs. Honestly how many of us liked our wives or girlfriends primarily how they cooked or chopped firewood? I see a hand waaay back there however I won't name names.
44 Minutes Ago 02:30 PM
Minnesail
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Face it guys, so many of the modern designs have the leading edge of the bow going darn near vertically into the water, not a real pretty sight for sure. The stern is chopped off to give you more interior space, personally I think that is ugly.
I love the vertical look. To me the long overhangs of old boats look pretty, but kind of quaint like you'd find in a Kincade painting.

The modern vertical bows look aggressive and fast. I like 'em.

But again, eye of the beer holder and all.
1 Hour Ago 02:07 PM
jerryrlitton
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Ok let's forget about structural integrity for a moment, blue vs coastal, fast vs maybe not quite as fast and let's talk about looks. The raked bow, wine glass stern, sloping and not boxed coach roof. Teak and warm woods inside, real brass and not simulated chrome, a real ships bell. I know beauty is in the eyes of the beer holder and all but damn, I like the looks of my boat. A superior row away factor. Not to be found in too many places. 200 mile days are almost secondary to this. Face it guys, so many of the modern designs have the leading edge of the bow going darn near vertically into the water, not a real pretty sight for sure. The stern is chopped off to give you more interior space, personally I think that is ugly.
It has to look good.
1 Hour Ago 01:36 PM
seaner97
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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I don't know, do you???? But I bet it is less than 2010-2010 boats!
I'll take that bet. An entire decade of high volume production vs one year of new production!?

But I know that was a typo.

But I wouldn't be surprised if there were still more from 1970-1980 than there were from 2000-2010 as there were more companies all producing more boats back then and many of the companies produced high quality designs that have lasted, so I think you aren't as safe in that bet as I think you think you are.
1 Hour Ago 01:34 PM
seaner97
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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I agree, we already have too many people looking out for us. What we can eat, drink, buy, sell, where to fish, etc.... For instance, I went to St. John's, NL. Lovely place. I seem to remember this place just out of town. An observation point. A cliff overlooking the ocean. Beautiful place. And there was no fence, no roped off area. You could just walk off to oblivion. In the USA we would have ropes, fenced off areas where unless you were real stupid or determined you would stay off the rocks. I kinda thought the Canadian way was refreshing. Sometimes you just have to look out for yourself or become a Darwin hero.

BTW Don, about those 1090 1970 boats that are for sale, how many more 1970 boats are out there sailing and being enjoyed?
That's Signal Hill. Awesome place. I miss it.
1 Hour Ago 01:32 PM
Don0190
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

[QUOTE=jerryrlitton;2884817

BTW Don, about those 1090 1970 boats that are for sale, how many more 1970 boats are out there sailing and being enjoyed?[/QUOTE]

I don't know, do you???? But I bet it is less than 2000-2010 boats!
1 Hour Ago 01:32 PM
seaner97
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Yeah you are right, all it really means is there are more people looking to get rid of them than want them.
No, it means YOU don't want them. There are 467 1970-1980 sailboats on Yachtworld.com in North America and 1088 sailboats in North America listed from 2000-2015. Now, I'm no mathematician, but I think 1088 > 467, so by your logic, no one seems to want the new boats more than no one wants the 70-80s boats.
1 Hour Ago 01:23 PM
jerryrlitton
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Further: regarding the keel grounding regs that were discussed-
I'd be suspect that any quasi regulatory language surrounding this would be similar to the rigging replacement stuff, whereby you would have so much disagreement that you'd get a blanket "20 years" to protect insurance companies and boat companies and then everyone's boat that is over that age is instantly worthless. Be careful what you wish for.
I agree, we already have too many people looking out for us. What we can eat, drink, buy, sell, where to fish, etc.... For instance, I went to St. John's, NL. Lovely place. I seem to remember this place just out of town. An observation point. A cliff overlooking the ocean. Beautiful place. And there was no fence, no roped off area. You could just walk off to oblivion. In the USA we would have ropes, fenced off areas where unless you were real stupid or determined you would stay off the rocks. I kinda thought the Canadian way was refreshing. Sometimes you just have to look out for yourself or become a Darwin hero.

BTW Don, about those 1090 1970 boats that are for sale, how many more 1970 boats are out there sailing and being enjoyed?
1 Hour Ago 01:16 PM
Don0190
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Just because there are many for sale doesn't mean no one wants them, just that there may be more on the market than people that want to get into sailing, and many of them may be less good designs.
Yeah you are right, all it really means is there are more people looking to get rid of them than want them.
2 Hours Ago 01:11 PM
seaner97
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Further: regarding the keel grounding regs that were discussed-
I'd be suspect that any quasi regulatory language surrounding this would be similar to the rigging replacement stuff, whereby you would have so much disagreement that you'd get a blanket "20 years" to protect insurance companies and boat companies and then everyone's boat that is over that age is instantly worthless. Be careful what you wish for.
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