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10-10-2013 08:41 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

Yes it's cheating, hang your head in shame. You should be able to sail up a channel no wider than your boat is long and right into your slip in no wind against a strong current.

Or something like that

I motor when I can't sail, or I can't get where/when I need to go via sail. It's only cheating if you do it when racing.
10-10-2013 07:40 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

The way I look at is that this whole boating thing is supposed to be fun!
What advantage is there in trying to do something in a way expected of you by others if you are stressing out.
If you are not racing, there is no such thing as "cheating". As you become more competent, you can continually challenge yourself and perhaps sail through that passage, but even then, don't hesitate to "cheat" if it will keep things fun, rather than stressful.
10-10-2013 05:22 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

The only time to be embarrassed motoring is when someone sails past you.

We had a stiff close reach heading into Block Island a year or two back and sailed past a motoring sailboat with bare poles. We swore we could see the poor bastard's wife point at us and ragging him out. Very fun.
10-10-2013 04:58 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

The only relevant question is...did you have fun...
10-10-2013 03:27 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

The last time I was out was on a Melges MC. The wind died as the sun set, but we were determined not to "cheat" and use the paddle. When we finally drifted back to the mooring ball we were probably going 0.1 knots....
10-10-2013 02:53 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

Am I going day sailing or to a destination ?

On Long Island Sound depending on the current and wind direction

If the current is in full flood in Northport and that just right WEST WIND I could have a pretty good day sail just reaching the sound

If I need to get someplace I would spend the 18 minutes motoring that section VS the 90 + minutes sailing it

If I leave Northport on the Ebb and ride it out to Port Jefferson and the Ebb is still doing its thing then there will be a section of the Port Jefferson breakwater with 3 knots of current

On the other hand on are last long sail (70+ miles ) we rode the full moon flood home and covered it in 10 hours
10-10-2013 02:35 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

Originally Posted by rhr1956 View Post
Not cheating. Motors were invented by sailors that got tired of waiting on the wind.
Or by those who needed to get to work on Monday morning.
10-10-2013 01:59 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

It's only cheating if you get caught!
10-10-2013 01:37 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

"cheating" "rule of thumb" "it's common to...."

Who cares! Do whatever works for you. I'll motor with wind sometimes. I'll sit becalmed sometimes. Who's keeping score?
10-10-2013 01:33 PM
Re: I'm ashamed...I cheated!

If you're cheating, then the vast majority of the sailors I've come across during the past decade are cheating as well. Last weekend, the winds on Chesapeake Bay were blowing 12 to 15 MPH all day long on Friday - it was beautiful and I sailed 50 miles down the bay to meet up with my son and his new girlfriend. While en-route, we we encountered at least 200 to 300 sailboats headed south for winter, boats from the Great Lakes to New York passed us and only a half-dozen had sails up. The others were all motoring down the bay's main channel, I guess in an effort to reach their destinations a bit faster than they would had they been under sail. Just doesn't make sense to me at all.

Now, there are situations where that motor can make the difference between life and death, and it can be a real life saver - especially when traversing a heavily traveled commercial channel. That's definitely not cheating - that's excellent judgement.

Good Luck,

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