SailNet Community - Reply to Topic
Thread: Production Boats and the Limits Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below


  Topic Review (Newest First)
10 Minutes Ago 09:28 AM
bobperry
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Here is a balanced, transom hung rudder.

Here are two of them!
12 Minutes Ago 09:25 AM
seaner97
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

c'mon guys and ladies, don't make me delete my subscription from the thread again. Thanks, Mstern.
14 Minutes Ago 09:23 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Quote:
Originally Posted by mstern View Post
transom-hung rudders can be balanced
Agreed. Rudders may be unbalanced, semi-balanced, or balanced. The configuration may be spade, skeg-hung, or "barn door."
35 Minutes Ago 09:03 AM
mstern
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Ahem. Not to distract from the Smack Down discussion, but transom-hung rudders can be balanced; the transom-hung rudder on my Oday 23 extends forward of the bottom lip of the transom below the waterline, providing a balancing surface.

And now, back to the entertainment portion of our program....
1 Hour Ago 08:01 AM
bobperry
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Smackers is enjoying himself immensely over on SAILING ANARCHY. SA far better suits his style.
3 Hours Ago 06:18 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTB View Post
Well, after re-reading the last 5 pages of the thread I discover that the real name calling, and true insults were from others than smack. Sure he had his comebacks in his own way as usual, only defending himself. If I wanted to navigate with an iPad, I'd listen to smack who just used it for 1000 miles getting to Florida. Not SVAuspisious or chef2sail.
You seem to have followed smackdaddy's restatements of the posts of others rather than the original.

I have many many thousands of miles using mobile devices for navigation on multiple boats, some in concert with MFDs and some without. I have one trip in particular (somewhere off South Carolina when the electronics failed on a delivery to the Caribben) on which in JUST THAT ONE TRIP I used a mobile device for navigation over a longer distance than the total smackdaddy cited.

Perhaps like smackdaddy you did not want to hear what you do not want to hear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTB View Post
Unless there was some back room discussions between the mods and Steve that didn't go well, a permanent ban was totally uncalled for. Maybe all the members slinging insults should have had a cooling off period to calm things down? It happens. All parties were getting rude. Not just the one you decided to permanently ban from Sailnet.
The mods say there were multiple requests to smackdaddy. I believe them. I know that smackdaddy has been banned temporarily before specifically for a cooling off period. That certainly sounds exactly like what you suggest is appropriate process.

It will come as no surprise that I won't miss smackdaddy at all.

However, smackdaddy has had the ability to identify topics that spark a lot of good discussion. It is unfortunate that his overall behavior detracted from that value.

There are a number of us who regularly make contributions but generally in response to someone else's topic. I challenge those who think they have something to offer, including myself, to think of SailNet during our sailing lives and start topics for discussion. By doing so we will honor the value of smackdaddy's tenure here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdw View Post
Simply put .... in maintaining that Donna was telling the truth it might have appeared that I was implying Steve (SmackDaddy) was not. I was not suggesting any such thing.
I will. Aside from a pattern of misstating the posts of others (which is rude at least) smackdaddy claimed to come home to find himself permanently banned without any notice from the mods. If he did not get the message the mods say they sent (and again I believe them) how did he know he was permanently banned and not just on another vacation? His story does not hang together.

The moderation at SailNet is pretty light-handed. They rarely even edit posts - I believe they ask members who have spoken inappropriately to make corrections themselves. When they do occasionally make a change it is labeled as such. Temporary bans are infrequent and permanent bans more so. I understand that a great deal of time goes into discussion before any action is taken, which is as it should be.
7 Hours Ago 02:12 AM
overbored
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

you two might want to be careful. this thread is about BOATS and all I keep reading here is about the Smack Down. careful you two could get smacked down too. but then again the Smack Down thread drift in the BOAT thread was started by a MOD. when you want to talk about a new subject you are suppose to start a new thread thats what people and MODS do.
http://www.sailnet.com/forums/images...es/clobber.gif
8 Hours Ago 01:22 AM
RTB
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdw View Post
I'm also an old Stuffers member, one of those who were banned due to Sully's apparent brain explosion. That saw what, 20 or 30 people banned in a matter of days ? If I'm correct there have been two contributing members banned from SN this year. Those are hardly Stuffers numbers and nor does it suggest a CF level of moderating.
One or two bannings (I don't know who the other was) is a start. So, point blank, I'll ask if you believe the smack ban was necessary? Yes or no? Is it good for sailnet? If so, what is your reasoning? I'll leave it at that.

Ralph
8 Hours Ago 01:06 AM
tdw
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTB View Post
So, yeah. I got that. You know, I'm an old stuffiminto member. I've always felt like an outsider here (who would have thunk?) But... I thought you guys might have a more level head than Sully. This smack ban reeks. I'm sorry, but just don't understand where that came from. YOU read the iPad thread and tell me where Steve went wrong....enough to get banned. Ok?

Ralph
I'm also an old Stuffers member, one of those who were banned due to Sully's apparent brain explosion. That saw what, 20 or 30 people banned in a matter of days ? If I'm correct there have been two contributing members banned from SN this year. Those are hardly Stuffers numbers and nor does it suggest a CF level of moderating.
8 Hours Ago 12:56 AM
RTB
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Quote:
Originally Posted by tdw View Post
My arse does not need covering, nor am I on the fence, which if paling then my arse may need some padding.

Simply put .... in maintaining that Donna was telling the truth it might have appeared that I was implying Steve (SmackDaddy) was not. I was not suggesting any such thing.
So, yeah. I got that. You know, I'm an old stuffiminto member. I've always felt like an outsider here (who would have thunk?) But... I thought you guys might have a more level head than Sully. This smack ban reeks. I'm sorry, but just don't understand where that came from. YOU read the iPad thread and tell me where Steve went wrong....enough to get banned permanently. Ok?

Ralph
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome