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42 Minutes Ago 05:57 AM
seaner97 BTW- you do know your avatar was a psychotic racist who thought he was right all the time but was demonstrably incorrect and refused to acknowledge it, right? Just saying.
54 Minutes Ago 05:45 AM
seaner97
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I don't build sailboats, but have done some in kayaking.
Nuff said.
When's the last boat of any kind you've built? You do know you can sail a kayak, right?
5 Hours Ago 01:07 AM
smackdaddy
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I don't build sailboats, but have done some in kayaking.
Nuff said.
5 Hours Ago 01:04 AM
jerryrlitton
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

You guys do know the term "row away factor" right?
15 Hours Ago 03:33 PM
miatapaul
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Smack I think there is maybe another elephant in the room....Or at least a very big gazelle.

That is what role has improved weather forecasting/routing along with GPS(and data via pactor/sat) played in changing/influencing people's boat choices for 'bluewater' sailing?

The 'bluewater' boats often referenced here were made at a time when if you went across an ocean you assumed you would at some stage get the snot beaten out of you by mother nature coupled with a uncertainty about just how far away that reef to leeward might be because you can't get an accurate fix in the conditions. Given this you could easily forgive the sailors of the 70's-80's for wanting boats built firstly strongly and solidly before anything else.

To put it another way, the only thing you could trust in( other than yourself) was the boat....

Now we can debate how much all this technology can be relied on and trusted( and we should) but I wonder whether real or imagined if perhaps the modern day sailor feels safer, he thinks he can avoid a lot of bad weather through good planning and he has a pretty good idea where just about everything on the face of the planet might be in relation to his boat.

The question remains then is he right or deluded?
Not to mention that now they have a button on an eperb they can just push and a helicopter comes and picks you up if you get to tired.
16 Hours Ago 02:36 PM
jerryrlitton
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I love the vertical look. To me the long overhangs of old boats look pretty, but kind of quaint like you'd find in a Kincade painting.

The modern vertical bows look aggressive and fast. I like 'em.

But again, eye of the beer holder and all.
I liked the swept back, guillotine look. That looks fast. And the overhangs. Honestly how many of us liked our wives or girlfriends primarily how they cooked or chopped firewood? I see a hand waaay back there however I won't name names.
16 Hours Ago 02:30 PM
Minnesail
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Face it guys, so many of the modern designs have the leading edge of the bow going darn near vertically into the water, not a real pretty sight for sure. The stern is chopped off to give you more interior space, personally I think that is ugly.
I love the vertical look. To me the long overhangs of old boats look pretty, but kind of quaint like you'd find in a Kincade painting.

The modern vertical bows look aggressive and fast. I like 'em.

But again, eye of the beer holder and all.
16 Hours Ago 02:07 PM
jerryrlitton
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Ok let's forget about structural integrity for a moment, blue vs coastal, fast vs maybe not quite as fast and let's talk about looks. The raked bow, wine glass stern, sloping and not boxed coach roof. Teak and warm woods inside, real brass and not simulated chrome, a real ships bell. I know beauty is in the eyes of the beer holder and all but damn, I like the looks of my boat. A superior row away factor. Not to be found in too many places. 200 mile days are almost secondary to this. Face it guys, so many of the modern designs have the leading edge of the bow going darn near vertically into the water, not a real pretty sight for sure. The stern is chopped off to give you more interior space, personally I think that is ugly.
It has to look good.
17 Hours Ago 01:36 PM
seaner97
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I don't know, do you???? But I bet it is less than 2010-2010 boats!
I'll take that bet. An entire decade of high volume production vs one year of new production!?

But I know that was a typo.

But I wouldn't be surprised if there were still more from 1970-1980 than there were from 2000-2010 as there were more companies all producing more boats back then and many of the companies produced high quality designs that have lasted, so I think you aren't as safe in that bet as I think you think you are.
17 Hours Ago 01:34 PM
seaner97
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I agree, we already have too many people looking out for us. What we can eat, drink, buy, sell, where to fish, etc.... For instance, I went to St. John's, NL. Lovely place. I seem to remember this place just out of town. An observation point. A cliff overlooking the ocean. Beautiful place. And there was no fence, no roped off area. You could just walk off to oblivion. In the USA we would have ropes, fenced off areas where unless you were real stupid or determined you would stay off the rocks. I kinda thought the Canadian way was refreshing. Sometimes you just have to look out for yourself or become a Darwin hero.

BTW Don, about those 1090 1970 boats that are for sale, how many more 1970 boats are out there sailing and being enjoyed?
That's Signal Hill. Awesome place. I miss it.
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