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Topic Review (Newest First)
02-21-2009 06:46 PM
CanDrac Yes! The Beneteau dealer in Charleston, SC fixed it for us in no time. They are great! E-mail me and I'll send you the details: CanDrac@sailforwater.com

We should reach Barcelona in early July. You can read about the trip and follow our progress on our site.
02-21-2009 04:53 PM
deniswfoster Hello,

Tell me when you arrive in Barcelona. I am in Roses a short distance to the North of the same coast.

Have you reinforced the autopilot tablet fixation and rudder post ? If yes would you have pictures and the Beneteau service notice.

We just installed a watermaker and and an upgrade of the electrical system.

If you want more details just let me know.

Denis Foster
02-21-2009 04:39 PM
CanDrac We own a Beneteau 43 (very similar to the 40, as you know) and are on our way from New York to Barcelona, Spain via the Caribbean. We're in the Dominican Republic right now so we already have over 2,000 miles under the keel. Let's just say that we are definitely putting the boat to the test and getting to know it pretty well. If you have any specific questions I'd be happy to answer them.

-franc
S/V Can Drac
02-09-2007 12:35 PM
Giulietta I admit I thought the Turkish system was already like the EU one.. my wrong...but still would consult with them. How old is that info?? So if he can stay up to 5 years is great...


I don't think Turkey will ever join the EU...just me thinking...
02-09-2007 12:19 PM
camaraderie Giu...I think his plan is to buy the boat and take delivery in the eastern med and then make his way to turkey for "permanent" berthing. If he documents the boat as a US vessel I think the boat can stay for quite long periods in Turkey without a problem.
"Foreign-flagged yachts, on condition that they are sailed by their owners once every two years, can remain in Turkey up to five years without a requirement for any permission. You can leave the country by another means of transport during this period after you leave your yacht at a marina or a moorage licensed by the Ministry of Tourism"
"Foreign sailors arriving in Turkey on their own yacht are now eligible for a two-year visa. A five year visa can be obtained in advance from the Turkish Diplomatic Mission in one's country of domicile. Residence Permits are available for periods starting from 90 days up to 5 years. They are also multiple entry, however departure and entry dates continue to be stamped in your passport. A foreigner who is the owner of a yacht, his wife and children and crew can obtain longer term Residence Permits, on condition that they have a fully paid contract to keep their yacht in a marina for at least the length of time of the Residence Permit application. The maximum permitted period on first application is 2 years. Longer periods up to 5 years are possible on subsequent application."
**********All this from noonsite.com *************

So...it appears that Turkey is a far better place to keep a boat long term than any place within the EU where you would have to worry about VAT being assessed AND compliance with the Schengen treaty personally and be forced to move the boat out of EU waters every 18 months.
All of this will change dramatically if Turkey gains admittance to the EU or if the boat is determined to be used as an unlicensed charter vessel rather than a recreational vessel.
Giu...does the above sound correct and make sense to you?
02-09-2007 10:48 AM
sailortjk1
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Originally Posted by Giulietta
more "miles than a road hooker"...G
Do what G said. He gave you good advise.

Buy the boat in Portugal and he will help you sail to Turkey.
That is if G can clear customs in Turkey, they may not let him in.
02-09-2007 10:42 AM
Giulietta Sailingguy...

IF you are keeping the boat in Turkey (as I understood you want to do) DO THE INSURANCE THERE, NOT IN THE US, as I believe you will leave the boat registred there...Insurance for a 40's in Europe is around 1000 Euros per year, give or take 200 Euros, they don't care if you can sail or not...they will ask where you will be sailing and how many days a year...pretty simple... and less (MUCH LESS) confusing and money scamming as it is in the US.. (I pay 900 Euros a year fully coverage including racing, and 0% liability for a 42', I had to show a copy of my Skipper Licence as owner)

Sould you want to fly the US flag..then you can't stay over 6 months....so registration must be well thought...


Once you decide to go to the States and register the boat in the US, then worry about it then, not before the bride is in the church...

Here's what I would do if I were you....and I wouldn't anounce I have 175 to spend. Say you only have 120K....OK??? Be smart...

I'd buy a plane ticket to Italy, Southern Spain, Southern France or Portugal....and buy ther boat there, where the boats are MUCH BETTER QUALITY, and also more choice available and better maintained....Turkey is not exactly a good place to buy, its poor, the selection is small, the boats are old and/or neglected, or have more "miles than a road hooker"...go to a country where there are more boats sailing, look at all the ones availble, decide on one, (take at least 2 weeks to buy a boat), buy one THEN take it to Turkey.

Turkey is not European Union, so you may buy a NEW ONE tax free (export version, you then have 2 months to get it outta here, most yards in Europe can even provide provisional export registration), then pay the taxes in turkey and register it there....check with Turkish Customs....

I don't know what you see in Turkey, but there are less complicated places around, like Italy, Malta, Greece....

But please DON'T buy the boat there....also since what you want to do is not really BIG BLUE WATER as they are meaning here in SAILNET, get a benetau, A jeanneau or even a Bavaria...They'll serve you good for what you want...

REMEMBER, don't think American if you want it in Turkey, go with the flow, with the locals and do it as they do....
G
02-09-2007 12:09 AM
sailingguy123 Thanks for the contact information hellosailor. I will send him an email and hopefully he can provide me with a good estimate of how much insurance would cost if I bought a boat.
02-08-2007 02:07 PM
hellosailor Sguy-
I don't know what rates would be these days. They will of course depend on the coverage, the value of the boat, besides how you are rated. You might contact Al Golden at International Marine Insurance Services, 410-643-8330; fax - 410-643-8331 1-800-541-4647; email:algolden@imiscorp.net Those are old numbers so if the area code has changed or anything, try the web.
IMIS isn't cheap but Al's a professional and a gentlemen, he'll tell you right out what the differences in policies are. Cheap boat insurance can be a mistake, like so much else in life.
02-08-2007 03:33 AM
camaraderie Sguy...the insurance rates for a boat will vary by cruising ground. Chesapeake Bay is a lot less than Florida...Florida is less expensive than Caribbean...I don't know what the med coverage will cost but you can bet it won't be as cheap as the $2k annually that boat will cost you to insure for the Chesapeake (ballpark on 200k boat). I'd at LEAST double that as a working number or ask for a quote from one of the international marine insurers. I know there are a bunch of Americans that winter in Mamaris...you might wanna try hooking up with some of them online (try the SSCA board) to get better answers on the stuff you will need to know that is Turkey Specific. It might pay you to join SSCA as you will get acceess to their archives which I know had some pretty recent articles on wintering in the Mamaris area (in addition to lots of other help from some good folks.)
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