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01-01-2014 08:41 PM
aeventyr60
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
As I indicated, my question was about the connectors. The smallest stuff I find is for 18 gauge (which arguably, shouldn't even be on a boat for 12V use). Heat Shrink Terminals Adhesive Lined Wire Connectors Genuinedealz.com
As I recall, the instrument wires are much smaller than that. I wouldn't want to simply wrap the bare wire around a screw on a terminal block.
I guess I could fill in the 18 gauge connector with another piece of wire, but I hope that's not the most elegant solution!
Wire size more like a 22. Not your standard terminal block either. This one has the screws inside the tube with the wire inserted at the base of the tube then the screws are tightend down on the wire. Maybe have to look at an electronics shop parts section for these.
01-01-2014 04:00 PM
L124C
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

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Originally Posted by aeventyr60 View Post
It's just a small black box box with a 6 gang connector inside. You can make one yourself. Nothing special about it.
As I indicated, my question was about the connectors. The smallest stuff I find is for 18 gauge (which arguably, shouldn't even be on a boat for 12V use). Heat Shrink Terminals Adhesive Lined Wire Connectors Genuinedealz.com
As I recall, the instrument wires are much smaller than that. I wouldn't want to simply wrap the bare wire around a screw on a terminal block.
I guess I could fill in the 18 gauge connector with another piece of wire, but I hope that's not the most elegant solution!
12-31-2013 09:39 PM
aeventyr60
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
That's good news, thanks! Would it be possible to include a picture? I'm curious what connectors they supplied (it's fine wire!).
It's just a small black box box with a 6 gang connector inside. You can make one yourself. Nothing special about it.
12-31-2013 04:11 AM
L124C
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

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Originally Posted by aeventyr60 View Post
My ST 60 wind Instrument package came with a junction box to be used inside the cabin at the base of the base. So when you need to pull the stick just disconnect the wires. While they may discourage splicing the cable, they do include a way to do it.
That's good news, thanks! Would it be possible to include a picture? I'm curious what connectors they supplied (it's fine wire!).
12-30-2013 05:50 AM
aeventyr60
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
I notice you have a wire junction at the mast. I'm under the impression Raymarine discourages splicing the cable at any point. Does anyone know why this is? Is it necessary? I'm getting ready to pull the stick and would love to make a junction rather than pulling the entire cable out of the boat.
BTW, I have the ST 60 wind instrument and the wind speed stopped registering. Sent Raymarine the transducer (head) and they said it was fine. Sent them the instrument and they "repaired" it for $225. Still had the same problem. Raymarine claimed it must be the cable. I checked and it had continuity on all wires. They wanted me to re-send them the instrument, cable and transducer. I gave up and they refunded the $225. Still don't have a working wind instrument but can live without it.
Then the ST60 depth instrument died, and they were able to fix that for $225. Good thing...that, I can't live without! Anyway...good luck!

Thoughts on splicing the cable?
My ST 60 wind Instrument package came with a junction box to be used inside the cabin at the base of the base. So when you need to pull the stick just disconnect the wires. While they may discourage splicing the cable, they do include a way to do it.
12-30-2013 05:04 AM
L124C
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

I notice you have a wire junction at the mast. I'm under the impression Raymarine discourages splicing the cable at any point. Does anyone know why this is? Is it necessary? I'm getting ready to pull the stick and would love to make a junction rather than pulling the entire cable out of the boat.
BTW, I have the ST 60 wind instrument and the wind speed stopped registering. Sent Raymarine the transducer (head) and they said it was fine. Sent them the instrument and they "repaired" it for $225. Still had the same problem. Raymarine claimed it must be the cable. I checked and it had continuity on all wires. They wanted me to re-send them the instrument, cable and transducer. I gave up and they refunded the $225. Still don't have a working wind instrument but can live without it.
Then the ST60 depth instrument died, and they were able to fix that for $225. Good thing...that, I can't live without! Anyway...good luck!

Thoughts on splicing the cable?
11-21-2013 11:44 AM
BarryL
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

Hello Again,

I received a call from a Raymarine tech. My unit can be repaired for $225. I authorized the repair and the display unit should be shipped to me soon. I will try to test it over the winter. The boat is on the hard with the mast down. I will see if I can connect the display directly to the wires at the bottom of the mast.

barry
10-29-2013 11:43 PM
BarryL
Update

Hey,

I have spent a little more time on this. I worked with a Raymarine tech on their technical forum and i received excellent information. Based on that I was able to verify that the masthead unit is working correctly. It appears that the display unit is not. I will remove and send to Raymarine for service.

Raymarine also stated that the Seataclk cable D284 is all I need to connect the speed and wind instrument so I can get both apparent wind speed and direction and true wind speed and direction.

Next steps are to get the display repaired, the two instruments connected and then connect both to my Garmin 740S plotter. After that I want to buy the Garmin Sounder so the 740S can work like a sounder / fishfinder.

Barry
10-29-2013 11:05 AM
redline
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

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Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
I can't seem to remove the instrument. It's mounted on a bulkhead next to the companionway. I can see the two thumb screws from inside, but when I remove them the instrument does not budge. Do I need to pull harder or am I missing something?
Yes, "pulling harder" would be the approach (carefully). There are only two screws at the top-right and lower-left (looking at the front) of the instrument holding it in. Anything else holding it in is probably sealant (pray it isn't 5200). Before I bought my boat, someone stole several of the PO's instruments by simply prying them off the panel without even removing the screws. Some of the studs remained behind along with the threaded bushing that was formerly part of the instrument.

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Originally Posted by BarryL View Post
Next question: I don't believe my instruments are networked. If I try to display apparent wind I get ---. Is networking the ST 60 Speed and Wind as simply as plugging in a Seatalk cable?
Yes again, if the Speed and Wind instruments are on Seatalk they will share data and calculate true wind, VMG (to windward), etc.

Mind you, you should be seeing Apparent wind already - that's the only thing the Wind instrument measures. It uses STW (boatspeed through water) from Seatalk to calculate True wind speed and angle from Apparent. Not that the "True" and "App" flags on the display are all that evident.

If Apparent is ---, you don't have any windspeed info. If it shows you True wind but not Apparent, you may have the instruments networked via Seatalk after all, in which case the Wind instrument may be seeing boatspeed, and, thinking that Apparent Wind = 0, concluding that you are motoring dead downwind at exactly the windspeed, hence True Wind = Speed and Wind Angle = 180.
10-27-2013 06:03 PM
svzephyr44
Re: Raymarine ST 60 Questions

Seatalk comes in different flavors. Seatalk and Seatalk2 were proprietary, Seatalk NG is NMEA 2000 with different plugs in the tradition of Raymarine to make it hard to use anyone else's equipment. Seatalk NG to NMEA 2000 bridge is a $30 cable.
ST60+ instruments have NMEA 0183 ports. Your chartplotter is NMEA 0183 compatible. So the simple answer is yes, you can hook them all up together. And no, you do not need any other boxes or converters
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