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11-01-2013 12:41 AM
blt2ski
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

WHo is to say an owner will not hit a rock, reef jetty etc as hard or harder than a charter person! I know a couple of times, I have hit the ground pretty rough! once hit a sand bar at 6 knots!

The look while doing a survey to see if there is remnants of hitting something damage, fixes to the body etc. There was a pretty good collision a couple of years ago at a beer can race, There was about 10-20K per boat. One of the folks in that crash posts on here. Either a charter person or owner of a boat can cause damage to a boat. Some of the charter folks will charter in an area they do not keep there boat! Example, faster goes to the Caribbean, granted on a friends boat, but his boat is left here in the salish sea. I am sure others on here, leave their boats say in the northern clims, charter a boat south, or east or equal........

Marty
10-31-2013 11:36 PM
Classic30
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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What damage do you specifically look for?
Hull damage - particularly keel cracks - from hitting reefs and jetties rather harder than an owner would. Chafed rigging/sails.. Cosmetic gelcoat damage. That sort of thing.

Think "hire car" - only it's a boat.

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What kind of modifications are you referring to?
Extra life-rings and life-ring mounts for starters (ugly!), dodgem-car style bumper strip around the full length of the hull.. but really anything in the boat that you don't particularly like.

..especially the kind that yell "I'm a charter boat!!" from the other side of the anchorage.
10-31-2013 11:14 PM
davidpm
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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what to look for if they've hit one

Charter boats have also often been slightly modified for survey - such modifications not always to everyone's liking, so there are costs involved to convert back.. otherwise, he's correct.[/SIZE]
What damage do you specifically look for?

What kind of modifications are you referring to?
10-31-2013 10:24 PM
Stumble
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

My last fill up we took on 100 gallons of gas and 20 gallons of water and sludge. From the busiest fuel dock in the area. We got the last drop of fuel they had. It took a month, but they finally agreed to pay to have the fuel tanks drained, cleaned, and refilled. The only reason they agreed was we had the tanks polished two months before...

It's been a bad year for us and boat fuel.
10-31-2013 09:40 PM
Bene505
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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Most people here on the Long Island Sound do not polish their fuel.

Is it required for some reason in other places?
Probably because the fuel around here is of good quality. Otherwise we'd hear about polishing more.

When I used to fly airplanes a lot, I was surprised that the a fill-up at the Atlantic City airport resulted in a pint of water in the fuel tank -- enough to kill the engine right after take-off, a very bad thing. Found out later that because of their old, buried storage tank and a high water table, this was a common thing at that airport.

Regards,
Brad
10-31-2013 04:38 PM
davidpm
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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fuel polished, ect...
Most people here on the Long Island Sound do not polish their fuel.

Is it required for some reason in other places?
10-31-2013 04:21 PM
Stumble
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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What did the mechanical refresh entail?
The same thing most new owners want for a boat they just bought. Oil changes, tranny changes, steering cables checked, fuel polished, ect... Just the things that it's good to have a baseline on before starting your dream.
10-30-2013 07:51 PM
davidpm
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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others didn't care and just wanted a mechanical refresh.
What did the mechanical refresh entail?
10-30-2013 04:23 PM
Stumble
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

My thought on charter boats, never having owned one, but worked on them when they were first bought from the charter companies, is that the regular maintenance was almost always up to snuff. Engine oil was changed, tranny oil was changed, electrical bugs fixed, ect... And often there were maintenance logs for all of it going back to break in, since the charter companies treat their boats like a long haul trucking company do. They are huge investments and maintenance needs to be done, and quality maintained.

What I tended to find in poor shape were the 'soft' systems. Sails were often in bad shape, lines were up for replacement, cushions were worn (generally the foam would be due for replacement), the interior wood was due for varnishing. Every boat was different, but generally there was never anything that would keep the boat from leaving the dock, but a lot of things showing wear. Some new owners wanted it all redone which could be expensive, others didn't care and just wanted a mechanical refresh.
10-30-2013 01:44 AM
Classic30
Re: Purchase an ex charter boat

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Yours was the only success story I knew about but now this thread a spotlighted several more.
Actually, David, there's probably more successes than failures I think you'll find.. Simply because people know it's a charter boat and thus know exactly what it has been used (or abused) for, where it has gone and how well (or otherwise) it's been looked after.

That isn't the case with your usual yacht purchase.
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