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1 Hour Ago 10:55 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Originally Posted by JonEisberg View Post
Well, speaking of "tricky", and ergonomic features that might be problematic when one is roaring drunk, I doubt any builder will ever top this legendary companionway Fun House ladder from Hunter...

:-)

Okay - I TOTALLY agree with you on that. I remember seeing that goofy-ass spiral-staircase-on-a-boat! before - and it is undeniably the stupidest feature I've seen on a sailboat in a LONG time (besides a full keel of course).

This is what we call in the design world a "punt".

Ex - I'm glad you appreciate my deep insight in the REAL problems with so-called "blue water boats".
1 Hour Ago 10:31 PM
Exile1
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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I do like the swept-back spreaders on that Morris. And carbon rig and rudder? Nice.

I watched the video and see how you get the standing room - the walkthrough between the settees is lowered. Tricky. So you have to climb up to get into the settee? Very bad setup for when you're roaring drunk. You hit your head when you stand up from dinner, then fall down the step into that goofy swivel seat? And due to the nice, airy windows, everyone in the anchorage gets to see the whole thing? No thank you, Mr. Morris.
Now this is the most insightful critique of the layout of a new boat I've read to date. I don't mind the roaring drunk/hitting my head/falling down the step program since that would just remind me of being home. But windows that allow the entire anchorage to witness it?! Screw that!! I'm not taking any chances -- ALL Morris' are definitely off the list!
2 Hours Ago 10:29 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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I watched the video and see how you get the standing room - the walkthrough between the settees is lowered. Tricky. So you have to climb up to get into the settee? Very bad setup for when you're roaring drunk.
Well, speaking of "tricky", and ergonomic features that might be problematic when one is roaring drunk, I doubt any builder will ever top this legendary companionway Fun House ladder from Hunter...

:-)




BTW, having to step up to the level of a dinette or settee is not all that uncommon, one sees quite a bit of that on motoryachts, where such a 'split level' often allows tucking in a stateroom or engine room space beneath... But if you can't handle it, looks like you'll have to cross the Oyster 88 off your list... :-)


2 Hours Ago 10:26 PM
Exile1
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Holy crap - those are chain plates?!?!?!?
I was relieved to see you're as surprised as I was Smack. I didn't realize Hunter's came standard with chainplates, but were only included if ordered with the "bluewater" package. In fact, I always thought the only standard item on a new Hunter was the flat screen TV with a video of Morris' sailing around. Ah well, live & learn I suppose.

In an effort to avoid another personal nasty-gram from Don, can someone advise whether I'd be guilty of Morris-bashing if I divulged that I really don't care for those doughty looking blue & white salon cushions on their new 48? Since I'm only a newbie poster on SN, I don't wanna come across as being insensitive and start off on the wrong foot.
3 Hours Ago 09:26 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I do like the swept-back spreaders on that Morris. And carbon rig and rudder? Nice.

I watched the video and see how you get the standing room - the walkthrough between the settees is lowered. Tricky. So you have to climb up to get into the settee? Very bad setup for when you're roaring drunk. You hit your head when you stand up from dinner, then fall down the step into that goofy swivel seat? And due to the nice, airy windows, everyone in the anchorage gets to see the whole thing? No thank you, Mr. Morris.
3 Hours Ago 08:51 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Dude, when you can see the panoramic view out those windows sitting down, you then need to be a freakin' midget to stand-up in the damn thing. Trade offs. Pffft.
I was aboard that boat in Annapolis... Headroom wasn't a problem for me, and I'm 6' 5"... :-)

Chromeless Video Player

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That Hunter looks sweet. As does this Jeanneau 54:



Look at how well that purse fits on the spacious nav table!
Yeah, I especially like all the space that's been dedicated for the installation of stuff like SSB, radar/chartplotter/repeaters, and so on...

And, that electrical panel looks AWESOME... Damn, it appears to have almost as many breakers as the one on my little tub!

:-)

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These boats make that Morris look...sad. Especially sad when the Master has to do the cooking.
I dunno, sounds like some of the other boats at Annapolis last fall made Nigel Calder sad... You don't suppose SAIL might be referring to any PRODUCTION BUILDERS here, do you? There are so few of those being exhibited at the Annapolis Show, after all... Of course, we all know they are too 'Polite' to name any names...

:-)

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On the one hand, there was no shortage of innovative ideas at this year’s Annapolis show. Among them were the Seascape 27’s clever outboard motor stowage arrangement, push-button belowdecks reel winches on the Island Packet SP Cruiser MK2 and several full-blown distributed power installations using the CZone system from New Zealand.

On the other hand, however, there were also some of the most untidy electrical installations our systems expert, Nigel Calder, had seen in years, several of which did not comply with current ISO and ABYC standards. In fact, Calder suspects some builders laid off too many of their skilled workers during the recession and are now having trouble getting back up to speed.

With this in mind, our systems award this year goes to Morris Yachts’s Ocean Series 48 GT, not for cutting-edge technology (although there were a couple of lithium-ion batteries at the heart of the installation) but for an excellent application of the best of conventional technology in what Calder likes to call a “DC-based boat.” This approach couples a DC generator to a powerful battery bank with a systems monitor that tracks the battery state of charge and automatically starts and stops the generator based on state of charge. All the boat’s AC loads are run off DC-to-AC inverters. The generator is from Fischer-Panda. The lithium-ion batteries and electronics package are from Victron Energy.



In such a system the generator is only run at relatively high loads, close to its peak efficiency. If it can’t be run at these loads, it is shut down. As a result, the generator run hours and maintenance will be a fraction of those with a conventional AC generator installation, with obvious lifestyle benefits and a substantial reduction in fuel consumption. As Calder puts it, “This is the ideal energy solution for a midsize offshore cruising boat, beautifully executed by Morris Yachts.”

Best Boats 2015: Morris Ocean Series 48 GT | Sail Magazine
3 Hours Ago 08:46 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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You mean those faux chain plates?
Holy crap - those are chain plates?!?!?!?
4 Hours Ago 08:19 PM
aeventyr60
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Absolutely - Hunter thought that one through. Those vertical silver things on each side (in the shelves) can be removed and used as a selfie stick.

You mean those faux chain plates?
4 Hours Ago 08:17 PM
MedSailor
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Absolutely - Hunter thought that one through. Those vertical silver things on each side (in the shelves) can be removed and used as a selfie stick.
Hunters are crap because their silly BNR swept-back selfie sticks suck!

MedSailor
4 Hours Ago 08:14 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Production Boats and the Limits

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Who needs windows when you can just watch it all on TV? I see a sail boat on the TV....Do these new boats come with selfie sticks too?
Absolutely - Hunter thought that one through. Those vertical silver things on each side (in the shelves) can be removed and used as a selfie stick.
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