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Interesting Sailboats

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Sirius 32, Sirius 35

THE OBJECT OF THIS THREAD:

Interesting sailboats in production and available on the new boat market (only boats with modern designs, meaning that the boats still in production but made with old designs are out). Recent designs out of production are also admissible.

Modern boat designs and modern one off, if interesting.

Classical boats and traditional boats.

Small cruisers (less than 35ft)

Seezunge 27ft: PG1-PT9

Hanse 325: PG19-PT185;

Presto 30 : 33-326; 33-327; 34-331; 34-333; 55-543; 55-544;

Tess Yachts: 37-366; 38-373;

Tess 28 Magnum: 37-369; 38-371;

Delphia 28: 38-373;

Vancouver 27/28 : 42-412; 72-717;

Cruisers between 35ft and 49ft


Catalina 355 : 31-306;

RM sailboats: PG5-PT41; 5-42

RM1050: PG5-PT46; 5-47; 5-48;

RM 1060: PG8-PT77; 8-78; 8-79; 8-80; 9-81; 30-295; 40-400; 79-786;

RM 1200: PG9-PT84; 9-85; 19-184; 20-191; 20-192; 41-404; 42-414; 42-418; 43-425; 43-426; 69-688;

RM 1350: PG9-PT82; 55-549; 95-943;

Morris Yachts: PG7-PT61

Bavaria 36: PG19-PT188; 19-190; 20-196;

Bavaria 40: PG10-PT95; 28-278; 29-281; 29-282; 29-283; 29-286; 32-316; 36-356; 51-502; 51-507; 52-518; 53-527; 53-532;

Bavaria 40s: 69-685; 78-775;

Bavaria 45: PG10-PT96; 19-190;

Rustler Yachts: PG11-PT104;

Jeanneau 409: PG11-PT103: 11-106; 30-298; 30-299; 36-356; 51-502; 51-504; 51-505; 51-509; 52-513; 52-514; 52-515; 52-516; 53-527; 54-532; 57-564; 57-570; 58-571; 58-580; 59-581; 59-583; 59-585; 62-614; 74-739; 91-906;

Jeanneau 439: 40-396; 40-397; 59-584; 59-585; 96-956;

Hanse Yachts: 16-154; 16-156; 16-158;

Hanse 400: 81-804;

Bluewater cruising yachts: 21-206

Beneteau Oceanis 37 : 31-306; 31-308; 31-309; 32-314; 55-541;

XC 38: 36-356; 96-954;

Diva 38: 39-386;

Diva 35: 40-391;

Dufour 405: 62-614;

Defline 43: 63-622

Walkabout 43: 93-923; 93-925; 93-927;

Small performance cruisers (less than 35ft)


Performance 32ft test: 29-87;

Sun Fast 3200: PG4-PT33; 4-34; 4-36; 30-293;

Elan 210: 70-691; 70-696; 78-779; 79-781;

Elan 310: PC7-PT64; 7-69; 8-71; 36-356; 41-408;

Quest 33: PG7-PT62

Olea 32: 25-243; 25-245;

First 27.7: 38-373; 38-380; 39-382;

First 30: 30-295; 39-356; 41-408; 55-545; 55-546;

Comet 26: 34-340; 35-345; 35-350; 36-353;

Pacer 30: 36-357;

Django 7.7: 40-399;

Vivace/Evosion 34: 45-442; 45-446; 45-445; 45-446; 45-447; 45-448; 45-449; 45-450; 46-458; 46-460;

Finn Flyer 34: 46-451; 46-453; 60-593;

Salona 34: 46-457;

Heol 7.4: 63-621; 63-622;

Azuree 33: 87-867; 91-902; 91-904;

JPK 10.10: 88-877 ; 88-880; 89-883;

Performance cruisers (between 35ft and 49ft)

Pogo 10.50: PG2-PT20; 3-27; 3-28; 3-30; 4-35; 5-50; 6-51; 6-52; 6-60; 11-101; 11-107; 11-110; 43-425; 44-440; 87-861; 87-867;

Pogo 12.50: PG13-PT125; 20-198; 20-199; 22-214; 27-264; 27-265; 27-269; 32-317; 32-319; 43-425; 43-426; 43-428; 44-432; 44-437; 44-439; 55-546; 55-547; 82-812; 84-831; 87-870;

Este 40: 89-890; 90-893; 90-899;

A35: PG5-PT42; 5-44; 66-660;

A40RC: 92-914;

Hammerhead 35: 64-645

Opium 39: PG5-PT42; 9-85; 9-89; 13-125; 22-220; 22-221; 43-426; 55-547; 86-857;

Aerodyne 35: PG7-PT62

Elan 350: PG7-PT64; 13-24; 13-126; 13-127; 13-128; 14-132; 18-178; 26-255; 36-356; 40-398; 41-405; 57-564; 59-589; 60-591; 72-711; 73-724; 74-738;

Elan 380: 23-223; 25-249; 26-256; 40-398; 59-589; 97-962;

Elan 410: 32-316; 79-784;

JPK 110: PG9-PT85; 10-91

Olea 44: PG10-PT100; 27-268;

Olea Yachts: 25-247;

Dufour 40e: Pg13-Pt125; 32-316; 55-547; 56-558; 56-559; 57-561; 57-562; 57-563; 59-586; 59-588,

Salona 37: 36-359; 41-406;

Salona 41: PG15-PT141; 15-145; 32-316; 36-356; 40-398; 54-538; 57-569; 78-778; 80-796; 80-798; 97-965;

Salona 42: PG15-PT145; 36-359; 40-398; 93-929; 94-932;

Cigale 16: PG15-PT148; 16-152; 17-161; 55-549; 63-625;

Cigale 14: PG17-PT163; 55-549;

Santa Cruz 43: PG17-PT169

Sydney Yachts: PG18-PT171; 18-175;

Sydney GTS 37: 43-423;

Sydney GTS 43: PG18-PT173;

Winner 12.20: PG20-193;

First 40: 31-304; 32-313; 32-316; 35-344; 36-354; 55-546; 55-547;

First 35: 36-356

Dehler 41: 30-296;

Dehler 44: 79-785;

Dehler 45: 36-356; 79-785;

Luffe 40.04: 30-300; 31-301; 31-303;

XP 38: 56-533; 56-544; 56-555; 67-622;

XP 44: 33-325;

Pacer 430: 36-357;

Pacer 376: 36-357; 66-652; 69-683;

Faurby 424: 36-360; 37-361; 37-363; 37-365;

Comfortina 39: 40-395;

J 133: 43-426; 63-620

J 111: 100-993;

Maxi 11: 99-982;

Arcona yachts: 46-456;

Arcona 410: 47-467; 47-468; 47-469; 48-471;

Arcona 430: 48-472;

Arcona 460: 50-495

Finngulf yachts: 46-456;

Varianta 44: 60-594; 60-595; 60-596; 60-597; 60-598; 64-639;

Imagine 53: 63-628;

Zou 40.2: 63-620

Ker 39: 68-676;

Finn-Flyer 42: 77-762;

Azuree 40: 85-842;

Loft 40: 85-848; 85-852;

Vivace 35: 90-895;

Sailing boats over 49ft

Zeydon 60 : PG 12-119;

JP 54: PG18-PT172;

Salona 60: 70-695;

Stadships: PG20-PT193; 20-195;

Pogo 50: 32-318; 32-319;

X-50: 54-537;

Murtic 52: 54-537;

Decksaloons and pilot house sailing boats

Sirius 32: PG1-PT1

Sirius 35: PG1-PT1; 1-10; 2-18; 50-491; 50-492; 60-559; 60-599;

Sirius 31: PG1-PT5; 2-17; 36-356;

Regina 35: 48-478;

Regina 40: PG11-PT104; 49-481; 49-483;

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Luffe 43DS: PG12-PT111; 12-115; 50-494;

Noordkaper 40: PG14-pt139;

Noordkaper yachts: PG16-PT155

Nordship 36: 30-297; 49-482;

Nordship 38: 49-482; 49-490;

Paulo's pilot house I: 38-376; 39-381; 39-383; 39-384;

Paulo's pilot house II: 69-682

Lyman & Morse 45: 38-379;

CR 38DS: 48-477; 48-478;

CR 40DS: 48-476; 48-478; 48-479; 50-494; 50-496; 50-497; 50-498;

Arcona 40DS: 50-494;

Racers

Figaro 2:pG4-PT36; 4-37; 5-42; 6-52; 6-53; 6-55; 6-56

VOR 70: PG16-PT160; 17-187

Farr 400: 67-661

Soto 40: 96-952;

Lifting keel/centerboarder

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Allures 45: PG10-PT93; 100-996;

Allures yachts: 25-248;

OVNI 425: 23-228;

OVNI 395 : 68-679; 69-690;

J 108: 67-661

Atlantic 43: 68-67

Boreal 44: 97-970; 98-974;

Multihulls till 34ft

Several Trimarans: 28-273;

Multihulls with 34ft and over

Dragonfly yachts: 26-257;

Dragonfly 35: 26-258; 27-261; 27-262;

Dragonfly 1200: 56-551;

Corsair 37: 28-276;

Farrier 39: 28-277;

Challenge 37: 28-278

Hammerhead 34: 29-385;

Hammerhead 54: 29-288; 30-292;

Trimax 10.80: 29-285;

Sig 45: 54-534; 54-539; 54-540;

Gunboat: 56-551

Fusion: 56-551;

Outremer: 56-551;

Tournier: 56-511;

Classical and Traditional boats

Jclass boats: 54-537;

Tofinou 12: 71-703;

Folck boat: 73-727;

Puffin Yachts: PG14-PT135; 14-138; 16-155;

Bestwind 50: PG12-PT116; 14-123;

Bestevaer 53: PG12-PT116;

Bestevaer yachts: PG16-PT155

Cape George 36: 41-410; 42-412;

Marieholm 33 : 42-412;

This list is not actualized. Please use the advanced search engine of the thread with the name of the model and builder. It works, most of the time.

(actualized till PG100) and it will be no more because that gives a lot of work (500 pages now).

Instead I am actualizing the titles and with the right title the thread search engine (not the one on the top of the page bit the one much below that says search thread) on its advanced option works quite well.

Hello,

Melrna posts on Miami Boat show and the comments of Smackdady about the interest of that thread lead me to think that perhaps I could share more information about sailboats I know and find interesting.

I am interested in boat design (interior and sailing performance) and I go each year at least to one of the main European Boat shows and that means basically Dusseldorf, Paris or Hamburg. On these shows you have the opportunity not only to visit the boats of the main and medium size builders but you have also the opportunity to visit the boats of small and sometime family shipyards.

Normally they build very good sailboats and sometimes they have been doing that for decades. The boats are hugely appreciated by their faithful customers but because they don't advertise their boats and there are very few on the used boat market, they pass unnoticed by the majority of the sail community.

The visit to these boats is a very rewarding experience because they are made with passion by true boat lovers and because when you talk to the guy that is on the boat, you are not talking with a dealer, that many times doesn't know much about boats, but with the builder, or the designer.

Even if you are not a buyer they will have real pleasure in talking with someone that really appreciates and understands their work. Those guys really believe in what they are doing and they do it the best way they can, no matter the cost. In a word, they are in love with what they are doing.
Of course, these boats have to be expensive.

This thread will be mainly about these boats, as a way of letting you know about these gems. Let's see if you are interested. I will not post much. If you want to know more you have just to participate and make questions.

The first one it will be the "Sirius". I have had the pleasure to visit several times their boats and to talk with the builders (father and son).

These boats have the best interiors you can find, or at least that I have seen. Not only the quality, but the design and ergonomy are fantastic. You really won't believe you are in a 32ft boat. Just incredible and amazing; Have a look at it:

Sirius-Werft Plön | Forecabin | 32 DS for 2 forecabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Owner´s cabin | 32 DS 4-berth comfort owner´s cabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Workshop | 32 DS for 2 workshop

Now that the son is in charge they have modernized the outside look of the new boats, they look fantastic not only inside but also outside. The boats sail well and they have clients as far as Japan.

Sirius-Werft Plön | Versions of decks house | You have the choice

Another interesting point is the way they develop new boats. They work with the clients to collect suggestions on the shape and design of the boats. A truly interesting affair, between passionate clients and passionate builders.

Sirius-Werft Plön | 35 DS | Philosophy

Take a good look at their interesting site and if you find the boat interesting, please let me know, I can add some information.

Sirius-Werft Plön | english | Welcome at website of Sirius-Werft Plön

Regards

Paulo
 
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#5,031 ·
I have not seen one quite to this extent. I've seen a few tartans with something equal, but not sure I am willing to say the same. As those boats could easily have been walk thru transoms. The one you are doing does not look like a simple version.

Still a neat option..........
 
#5,032 · (Edited)
FIPOFIX the new mad idea from Norbert Sedlacek

Norbert Sedlacek is a true sailor and also an adventurer. This is the adventurer part: For making publicity to a new material he is going (or trying) to circumnavigate the Atlantic in both directions (to america and back) on a kind of mini-mini, I mean if you think that a mini is a mini Open60, than this one is a mini-mini, do you get it. No? You will understand when you see the mini-mini:
D





Well, he could not have chosen a worst year to attempt this madness. I hope he will make it. It seems that the objective is to have a really Open60 made of this material...I hope the price would not be too high:rolleyes:

FIPOFIX®-Positioning Technology - FIPOFIX® (EN)
 
#5,043 ·
Re: FIPOFIX the new mad idea from Norbert Sedlacek

Norbert Sedlacek is a true sailor and also an adventurer. This is the adventurer part: For making publicity to a new material he is going (or trying) to circumnavigate the Atlantic in both directions (to america and back) on a kind of mini-mini, I mean if you think that a mini is a mini Open60, than this one is a mini-mini, do you get it. No? You will understand when you see the mini-mini:
D



FIPOFIX®-Positioning Technology - FIPOFIX® (EN)
Paulo - Actually, I think this Open 16 concept might be a stroke of genius from Sedlacek, if it performs as expected. There is a place in the market, I believe, for a true entry-level Open-class solo ocean racing design for those who want to get into the sport but don't have Mini 6.50 budgets.

As you suggest, however, the key question will be the cost. If I read the Fipofix web site correctly, the technology is supposed to yield stronger and lighter carbon layouts, and require thinner, lighter marine plywood sections, than conventional builds. I take it that also means the use of less resin in the process, which should reduce costs. If someone could do an Open 16 for around €25-30K + sails & electronics, I think you'd hit the sweet spot. Doing it as a single-sourced One Design, built at McConaghy, and shipped to Europe and the UK 4-to-a-container, you might just hit that target.

I'm definitely going to follow this project closely. Thanks very much for bringing it to our attention. Sedlacek departed last Sunday for NYC. If I'm not traveling when he finally arrives I will go down to see the boat.
 
#5,034 ·
Bob.. please sort out a Photobuket acct... these images are too sublime for thumbnails!!

 
#5,047 ·
Da Nada! ;).. I believe it should work on other forums unless they don't allow links. Beautiful renderings!
 
#5,045 · (Edited)
Contest 42 CS

The very traditional and famous Dutch mark launched a new boat a 42ft boat.

The brand that is a competitor on the HR, Najad, Oyster and Amel market, I mean luxury blue water boats, has been concentrated (as the others) on the upper markets with bigger boats. A 42 is a kind of revisit to its origins and the boat is meant for other type of sailors: Those that are rich but not millionaires:D.

I had already talked about this Georg Nissen design and I have to say that the real thing looks a lot better than on the designs:







Very nice interior with plenty natural light.

The boat is light (11 000kg) it has an average beam for a modern cruiser (4.15m) it has a considerable draft (2.20m -1.80 in option) and a modern bulbed keel. For this type of boat it is going to be a fast boat. The hull looks very well designed.











This is a semi custom boat and it has a very nice particularity: It offers three different rigging options, including one for solo sailing.
 
#5,046 ·
Transat Jaques Fabre

Sensational the GDF Suez pit stop on Spain. It looked like a F1 pit stop:D The boat not Bolton stopped on the most favorable spot as the speed of the repair (on top of the mast) was fantastic. the boat remains well ahead on the 40class race.

Also an impressive pit stop from the leader of the M50 in Porto Santo. Yves lost the leadership for Le Roux but it is really close.

On the Open60 curiously Gabart did not manage to overtake Stamm. This one felling the pressure responded impressively overtaking Beyou. Marc continues leading and he is the one that has been faster on the last 24 hours followed by Stamm and Riou. But not on the last 2 hours where Stamm was the faster by a big difference to the leader (10.3K to 17.4K).

Right now Stamm is the fastest and he comes like a bullet over Marc and Riou. Fantastic race:D

A video with Safran and Marc on the leading boat. As usual it is impressive the speed (24K) and easiness ;: one at the tiller without much work and the other making a movie;)


Jour 5 - Safran IMOCA) - Transat Jacques Vabre... por TransatJacquesVabre

Transat Jacques Vabre 2013
 
#5,050 ·
Re: Transat Jaques Fabre

Sensational the GDF Suez pit stop on Spain. It looked like a F1 pit stop:D The boat not Bolton stopped on the most favorable spot as the speed of the repair (on top of the mast) was fantastic. the boat remains well ahead on the 40class race.

Also an impressive pit stop from the leader of the M50 in Porto Santo. Yves lost the leadership for Le Roux but it is really close.

On the Open60 curiously Gabart did not manage to overtake Stamm. This one felling the pressure responded impressively overtaking Beyou. Marc continues leading and he is the one that has been faster on the last 24 hours followed by Stamm and Riou. But not on the last 2 hours where Stamm was the faster by a big difference to the leader (10.3K to 17.4K).

Right now Stamm is the fastest and he comes like a bullet over Marc and Riou. Fantastic race:D

A video with Safran and Marc on the leading boat. As usual it is impressive the speed (24K) and easiness ;: one at the tiller without much work and the other making a movie;)
Both Stamm and Gabart are reeling in Riou and LeCam. Stamm is 11 miles back and Gabart only 29 miles. I predict it will be only a matter of time before we are back to the Macif vs. Cheminées Poujoulat battle. Appears that Stamm has recovered his health, while Macif is simply picking up where they left off before the Portugal pit stop. :D
 
#5,057 · (Edited)
Transat Jaques Fabre

and Stamm is leading the race on Open 60:) Gabart maintains about the same distance to the leader but have won 10nm to Riou. Marc seems to have problems again on that furler. His boat is slower than the one from Beyou and that's not natural.

Anyway it seems that what was shown yesterday on the weather prevision was not what happened. Tricky routing. They have not such a big lateral separation and however Marc more to the west had not so much pressure as Stamm, that is in between him (laterally) and the ones on the leading pack but those had more pressure than Marc but less than stamm. And it will continue very tricky, it seems that there are more wind to the west but with some patches with slower wind on the way.

Transat Jacques Vabre 2013

Anyway this has been a very fast race and they have chances to beat the race record.

In the 40 class race they are getting strong wind and are all over the place. The leaders are the same but Riechers (second) seems to be closing on the leader (Rogues) . Most of all the Spanish team (Pella and Pablo) are making a hell of a recover after having lost considerable time replacing a rudder. I bet they will be third soon.

On another register, it seems that ker has yet to learn one or two things about designing solo racers. His boat is way back on the classification.

The first six days of race:


ENG - Summary 6 day race - Transat Jacques... por TransatJacquesVabre
 
#5,059 · (Edited)
Sun Fast 3600

A video about theSunfast 3600 by Voile and voiliers, that's interesting but it is in French.

Anyway if you don't understand French you can see the interior that is one of a racing boat. Much worse than the one from the Pogo 30 for cruising and certainly a good one for ocean racing.

They take the opportunity of a delivery for test sailing the boat and they give some numbers:

15K trw downwind with spy asymmetric - 8.9K speed

15K trw 38º of trw - 7.2K

Now you guys don't start with ideas that the Pogo 30 is faster downwind:D (14K - 8/9K). I saw the movie and the Pogo was sailing on completely flat water, conditions that are not possible in non sheltered waters and on the Sunfast we are talking about an oceanic sail while on a delivery, so probably with typical 15k sea conditions.

Of course comparatively the Pogo is much more maximized downwind and compromised upwind than the Sunfast and the measure they give for the SF at a very tight angle to the wind (38º TRW - 7.2K) seems almost too good to be possible. Just as comparison a Farr 40 racer with 14K TRW and 37.6º makes 5.95K and with 16k and 36.7 - 6.01K (at 52º - 8.38K).

Incredibly good upwind performance in a boat that is slightly more balanced downwind than upwind and slightly more for solo than crewed racing. And the boat is not expensive too. I believe it is going to sell very well, for this type of boat and it will be a good racer with short crew or with a full crew.

They say also that the boat is very precise on the tiller and that everything works very well in what regards rigging. A great boat no doubt:



and also an English one:

 
#5,063 · (Edited)
Transat Jaques Fabre

Great video from Energa:


Jour 7 - Energa -Transat Jacques Vabre 2013 por TransatJacquesVabre

On the head of the race on Open60 the fight is read hot with Riou leading after having overtaken Stamm. Gabart is closing bit by bit, slowly but persistently the distance to the leader that is now of just 15Nm.

http://tracking.transat-jacques-vabre.com/fr/

That distance had already been 42Nm and I bet that many would think the Wonder team would recover faster. This slow recovery had certainly shown to the others on the head of the race that they can fight with Gabart and Desjoyeux.

On the 40class things are more interesting with the Riechers closing in
 
#5,065 ·
#5,074 ·
Bad luck to her:(

"While delivering her boat to Sada, the Australian sailor reported a problem with her gooseneck and requested the assistance of an escort boat. On the outskirts of Ribadeo, she asked for a tow to enter the port. In the entrance channel a wave suddenly took the boat and capsized it. Katrina was not clipped on and fell into the water, but was immediately recovered by the Ribadeo's pilot. The sailor, who was very shocked, has been taken to hospital where she is under observation."

She is not racing this time.



Regards

Paulo
 
#5,070 · (Edited)
Transat Jaques Fabre



Look at the video;)

...
... By tomorrow morning the universe will be set right again and Macif will be disappearing into the distance. In boats so closely matched, the Gabart / Desjoyeux performance is all the more incredible. ...
That's your turn to be wrong:D

Riou had stopped the recovery from Gabart and even won some miles. In last post I sad Riou was on the better position and now it is even more so in what regards everybody including Gabart. It is amazing the importance that a relatively small lateral distance can have.

As I have also previewed the group more to the west was going to lose and that was the case, including Stamm.

Stamm, Marc and Beyou are really close and form a second group at already some distance to the leading boats. Their wind pressure is much less and they are losing and will continue losing to the two leaders. Look at what happened to them yesterday:


Jour 8 - Maître CoQ (IMOCA) - Transat Jacques... por TransatJacquesVabre

Gabart is at 17nm from Riou while the other three are at about 80nm.

Amazingly good rooting by Riou that not only does not make mistakes as it has always the boat on the right course to get the better possible conditions. Great race.

….

On 40 class another great race, with Rietchers in hot pursuit of the leader (Rogues) that has managed to maintain a difference of about 35nm. The boats are going fast (14K) and the third, Seguin, on a Lombard design, after have managed to win 30nm over the two on the head seems to have now stabilized on a 95nm difference.

Transat Jacques Vabre 2013

Regards

Paulo
 
#5,068 ·
Hi guys,

I've been a little bit absent these few months, but for good reasons. I've been sailing my Dufour 36P, and now, 6 months and some regattas after, I can give some feedback on the boat.

First of all, it's not a easy boat to get accustomed to. It will take a bit of time to start understanding the boat and how to sail it properly. After that, even a novice sailor like my self can sail it fast, and yes, it is a fast boat.

In regard of it's cruising abilities, there's not much to say: it ful·fills what is expected. Not more not less. It's more than enough for the occasional 2 week vacation with a family of 4 or 5, but it can take up to 7 adults if they are up to it. It's a mass market boat, so the quality is what it is, but no major problems until know.

Regarding it's racing capabilities, I think they also meet what it was expected. The boat is fast, easy to sail, and surprisingly good upwind, although some tuning was required until we found the setup.

The main thing we have found over these last regattas is that the boat need weight, needs a full crew, even on light winds (10-15 knots) to perform well. All the maneuvering (with the asymmetric) is very easy, you don't need a lot of man power for that, but you need the weight on the board.

One other thing of notice is the tremendous power the big mainsail gives to the boat. Be sure you have a good and experienced sailor handling the main trimming. And be prepared to reef the main early (25knts).

Although we've only been in some club races, we've been very competitive and successful in the regattas and we are very satisfied with the performance of the boat.

We are now starting to upgrade it and tune it up for 2014 season, were we will see if the boat is really competitive or not.

Some photos and a couple of videos*.

Cheers,

P.S. Paulo, I know I owe you. As soon as possible, will try to make it right…

* Sailnet doesn't allow me to post pictures or videos. I'll send them to PCP :(
 
#5,069 ·
Hi guys,

I've been a little bit absent these few months, but for good reasons. I've been sailing my Dufour 36P, and now, 6 months and some regattas after, I can give some feedback on the boat.

First of all, it's not a easy boat to get accustomed to. It will take a bit of time to start understanding the boat and how to sail it properly. After that, even a novice sailor like my self can sail it fast, and yes, it is a fast boat.

In regard of it's cruising abilities, there's not much to say: it ful·fills what is expected. Not more not less. It's more than enough for the occasional 2 week vacation with a family of 4 or 5, but it can take up to 7 adults if they are up to it. It's a mass market boat, so the quality is what it is, but no major problems until know.

Regarding it's racing capabilities, I think they also meet what it was expected. The boat is fast, easy to sail, and surprisingly good upwind, although some tuning was required until we found the setup.

The main thing we have found over these last regattas is that the boat need weight, needs a full crew, even on light winds (10-15 knots) to perform well. All the maneuvering (with the asymmetric) is very easy, you don't need a lot of man power for that, but you need the weight on the board.

One other thing of notice is the tremendous power the big mainsail gives to the boat. Be sure you have a good and experienced sailor handling the main trimming. And be prepared to reef the main early (25knts).

Although we've only been in some club races, we've been very competitive and successful in the regattas and we are very satisfied with the performance of the boat.

We are now starting to upgrade it and tune it up for 2014 season, were we will see if the boat is really competitive or not.

Some photos and a couple of videos*.

Cheers,

P.S. Paulo, I know I owe you. As soon as possible, will try to make it right…

* Sailnet doesn't allow me to post pictures or videos. I'll send them to PCP :(
Congratulations! The Dufour 36P is a beautiful boat and certainly has a very good racing pedigree in ORC. Please continue to share more about what works and what doesn't. The boat is on my shortlist of potential performance cruisers.
 
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Advanced 44 daysailer: Pure beauty and performance

Advanced Yacths had made a smaller yach, a 44ft daysailer. As it is a custom brand maybe it can be turned in a cruiser if someone really wants it.

















Gorgeous boat, a design by Roberto Biscontini and the boat is not just looks, the dimensions are almost as beautiful as the design;)

With a beam of 4.25m a draft of 3.0m, a torpedo keel and a B/D ratio of 41% this boat is not only fast but STIFF:eek:

This one don't need anybody siting on the rails....and it weights only 6650kg, hard to believe in a not all carbon boat with a ballast of 2700kg.

The boat has a cored hull and uses epoxy vacuum infusion and is reinforced with carbon on the zones subjected to bigger efforts.
 
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Re: Advanced 44 daysailer: Pure beauty and performance

Advanced Yacths had made a smaller yach, a 44ft daysailer. As it is a custom brand maybe it can be turned in a cruiser if someone really wants it.

Gorgeous boat, a design by Roberto Biscontini and the boat is not just looks, the dimensions are almost as beautiful as the design;)

With a beam of 4.25m a draft of 3.0m, a torpedo keel and a B/D ratio of 41% this boat is not only fast but STIFF:eek:

This one don't need anybody siting on the rails....and it weights only 6650kg, hard to believe in a not all carbon boat with a ballast of 2700kg.

The boat has a cored hull and uses epoxy vacuum infusion and is reinforced with carbon on the zones subjected to bigger efforts.
A "day sailor"? They're joking, right? The boat looks amazing, and the interior is among the best I've ever seen. I mean, obviously, it is missing a number of important offshore features, including deck hardware for serious performance cruising, adequate hand-holds down below and a way to brace yourself at the galley or chart table. Clearly intended for casual inshore sailing and cocktails afterwards. That's not a bad thing at all, but this boat cries out for a cruising version. I really, really, really like this boat. Wow. :)
 
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