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|02-11-2007 05:26 PM|
I have actual experience..
I own a Catalina with in mast and love it. I will never go back to a traditional main configuration but I'm cruising not racing. In 5600nm I have not had one jam. The system has worked flawlessly. You do need to understand how to use an in mast furler but the learning curve is very easy. My sail has also held up very well and has a nice shape..
|02-05-2007 12:59 AM|
|tonic||To each his own. Oviously there are pro and con's for each method. We all have different need as sailors, no right or wrong. What do we want out of our sails, convenience or performance or both. I had Hunter 25 wth a loose footed main that had jiffy reefing loved it. Now a Beneteau 32 with in mast furling. It jammed on me once, headed down wind rolled it up from the clew best I could a lashed to the mast with a spare halyard. Love it. With less time on my hands for sailing with a growing family I op for the in mast furling I'd rather be sailing in 20 seconds. 10 for the furling jib and 10 for the furling in-mast main. As far as reefing just as easy I'll be it a little longer. Do you want performance well this isn't the right set up for you or even close. Would I sail on your boat Hell ya. Peace and happy sailing. Great Topic, enjoyed it.|
|09-16-2006 09:21 PM|
Just some thoughts - but i have a Jeanneau DS40 with inmast and single hand and love it and would not change - i am not a beat the whip racer trying for that last knot - but once i figured it out we get what i consider good performance out of it.
you do have to learn to bring the sail in under pressure to keep it tight - but we reef easily and any can sail with as much or little main sail as we want -
i have been to the bahamas and constantly down the keys on the ocean side without an issue -
i am not a purist nor do i care to be but an practical enough to know what works for me and at 61 yo i like the fact that i can sail the boat from the cockpit
just my thoughts
chuck and soulmates
|09-16-2006 05:38 PM|
|ebs001||SD, you still have to haul that sucker up the stick every time you want to use the main. Lets see you do that in under 90 seconds and no sweating allowed. Modern in mast furling is so simple and so reliabe it seems almost rediculous to be arguing, especially for coastal cruisers.|
|09-11-2006 08:17 PM|
|sailingdog||We were out on a C&C 38, and had to reef the main. With two people, we could reef the main in under 90 seconds. It was setup with a reefing line and a tack hook. I doubt you could do much better on a mast furling system, and a slab reefing system is far less likely to have problems.|
|09-11-2006 07:30 PM|
1st hand experience
Just for the record, my comments were just that...............I'm not an owner but have chartered & crewed with a number a boats w/ mast furling systems.
I would never choose / buy one.
As I said before & GT/SD have stated real life problems. Having a sail jam in high winds is no picnic & BTW why do things like that always happen at the worse times.
I was out on a private Jenneau yesterday 43DS with in mast furler....the owner is a "fan" for the benefits & acknowledges that he has given up sail shape & controls to get it...............sailmakers are trying to compensate so he plans to factor that into his replacement sail.
I also have been on a Hunter 36 with it and chartered boats with it. All the negatives don't come close to outweighing the benefits. I would love to try an in-boom system............curious what the costs are.
My system of choice is a beautiful full main sail (and lighter mast) with all the bells & whistles plus a lazy jack / stack pack. Bet I can sail faster plus handle my sail easier than the in-mast guys.
|09-10-2006 10:33 PM|
|sailingdog||I would go with a Boom-furling main before a in-mast-furling main. One of the real risks I see with in-mast-furling is that the sail must be unfurled to take it down. If an in-mast unit jams, then you may be left with sail up and no real way to take it down. Also, the problems can be much harder to solve, since the jam is as likely to be the masthead section as the lower part of the in-mast unit. Lastly, most in-mast units have problems with sail shape and weight aloft.|
|09-10-2006 08:02 PM|
Originally Posted by xort
I have been on two different boats where we had the main jam while trying to roll it in, in light winds yet. The skippers were experienced with in-mast furlers too. Some of the newer in-mast spars have a sail track along side the opening for the furling main allowing you to use a standard sail once you remove the furling sail.
They are convenient for a lot of people, and a lot of charter boats have them, so they must work OK for most people. I would say poor performance, shorter sail life and extra weight aloft are the big negatives for me.
|09-10-2006 06:12 PM|
Could you post some of the owner lists where these posts regarding in-mast furlers are? I would like to read them,
|09-10-2006 12:33 PM|
|Gene T||I see people with in-mast furlers wishing to change them all the time. Lots of offers to swap rigs with conventional systems on various owner lists. In-boom is very nice and can offer almost as much sail area as conventional mains do. BUT it is very expensive to convert, and some systems still have problems. As far as in-mast systems go the sails blow out quickly if the boat is sailed in windy areas. Some owners do like them and end up relying on large headsails to make up the difference in lost sail area.|
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