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12-06-2013 08:51 PM
hellosailor
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

Minne-
You know, you and Mainesail are dead ringers for each other on the web. I mean, unless I look at the title box, I can't tell whether I've got your webcam turned on or his. (WEG)

""Drivers talking by cell phone drove significantly worse than drivers talking to passengers." Yeah, that's the kind of correlation that too sadly gets passed off as causative science on the Nooze these days.

"Scientists discover water kills!" You can easily prove it, everyone who has ever drunk the stuff, has died. Gee....it must be toxic?

As for tuning out girlfriends, or tuning women in general...I don't think we're allowed to discuss that before 11PM in this forum. Well, maybe not even AFTER 11PM in THIS forum. (VBG)

All I know is that one long night a long time ago, I called a friend from my car on my cell phone and explained that the boredom was putting me to sleep, the conversation was anything BUT a distraction. When I'm on the cellphone in the car, it used to be an earbud or a built-in with speakerphone. Now it is a bt with speakerphone, and I still make the same conscious focus on the enemy (I've seen my name on their bumpers) and sometimes have to ask "What did you say?" or even "I'll call you back, I'm in traffic".

Then again, if you know how to fight your way through heavy metro traffic and yellow cabs, wtf is one more voice in the crowd? I still say the problem is not cell phones, it is folks who should not be allowed to drive.

I'm also in favor of having one day, say, the 4th of July, where all bets are off. No cops, no enforcement, get totally drunk and drive at twice the posted limit, have a good time. The survivors will be proof of Darwinian evolution, and the rest of us will be that much safer in the following year.

The same could be said for having a "Mandatory Drunk Powerboating and JetSkiiing Day". Once a year, let the herd thin itself.
12-06-2013 08:25 PM
miatapaul
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Hopefully your wife isn't there while you're talking to your girlfriend!
Well that makes it extra distracting!
12-06-2013 07:59 PM
Minnesail
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Well I know I sure can just tune my wife out when sitting next to me in the car, but I can't tune my girlfriend out when on the phone!
Hopefully your wife isn't there while you're talking to your girlfriend!
12-06-2013 07:25 PM
miatapaul
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
"I find it harder to pay proper attention to the road while I'm having a phone conversation than while talking to a passenger,"
Maine, does this mean you need to get a cell phone holder that looks like a mannequin, complete with pretty frock and wig? You know, so you'd think you were talking to a passenger?

Or perhaps, it just means you need to spend less time with battery cycling and way more time practicing driving with a cell phone? Till you master that art?

It could be the cell phone is a problem simply because people are unpracticed and unfamiliar with it. Or, that they shouldn't be driving in any case. No, wait, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to use telephones in any case. (You know, these are the folks who wake you up with wrong numbers, and then redial you three more times because they KNOW they've got the right number.)
Well I know I sure can just tune my wife out when sitting next to me in the car, but I can't tune my girlfriend out when on the phone!
12-05-2013 04:49 PM
Minnesail
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
"I find it harder to pay proper attention to the road while I'm having a phone conversation than while talking to a passenger,"
Maine, does this mean you need to get a cell phone holder that looks like a mannequin, complete with pretty frock and wig? You know, so you'd think you were talking to a passenger?
Uh, I believe it was me who said that, not MaineSail. (If I had known when signing up for SailNet that two of the most prolific posters go by MaineSail and Minnewaska I would not have chosen MinneSail for a screen name, but so it goes.)

Anyway, the point of the University of Utah study
Drivers Distracted More By Cell Phones Than By Passengers
Passenger and cell phone conversations in... [J Exp Psychol Appl. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
is that passengers react to road and traffic conditions by slowing or stopping the pace of conversation, whereas the person on the other end of the phone does not.

"Drivers talking by cell phone drove significantly worse than drivers talking to passengers. The cell-phone users were more likely to drift in their lane, kept a greater distance between their car and the car in front, and were four times more likely to miss pulling off the highway at the rest area. Passenger conversation barely affected all three measures."

"Meanwhile, passengers took an active role in supporting the driver, often talking about surrounding traffic. That shared situational awareness could be helpful to the driver."
12-05-2013 04:06 PM
hellosailor
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

"I find it harder to pay proper attention to the road while I'm having a phone conversation than while talking to a passenger,"
Maine, does this mean you need to get a cell phone holder that looks like a mannequin, complete with pretty frock and wig? You know, so you'd think you were talking to a passenger?

Or perhaps, it just means you need to spend less time with battery cycling and way more time practicing driving with a cell phone? Till you master that art?

It could be the cell phone is a problem simply because people are unpracticed and unfamiliar with it. Or, that they shouldn't be driving in any case. No, wait, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to use telephones in any case. (You know, these are the folks who wake you up with wrong numbers, and then redial you three more times because they KNOW they've got the right number.)
12-05-2013 02:16 PM
Minnesail
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

I visited my parents over Thanksgiving and my dad gave me Esquire's Book of Boating, published in 1966. It has a section on the future of electronics in boating. I'll have to scan a couple bits and post in this thread.

It suggested that with a combination of a slide projector and a CRT screen you could have up to 80 charts ready for display at the helm. Imagine!
12-05-2013 02:12 PM
manatee
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Hats off to you developers though... Very little reward for LOTS of sweat and time, for little pay. Sure it could pay off in spades, but rarely does.
But it is *SO* much fun!

Anyone besides me remember Alan Alda doing a PBS show about computers in which some MIT geeks (and I mean that in the most admiring and complimentary way) had made their own wearable computers?
12-05-2013 01:30 PM
christian.hess
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

beleive it or not guatemala is worse, busses there fall deep into the jungle from cliffs as they couldnt care less...

war does this to many countries...you get numb...

we need more peace

sorry for the thread derrail...about google glass...so you know Im not full of it..since Im passionate ABOUT music I dont even turn on the radio while driving...especially down here

sounds have a huge impact on concentration...ask that to any interrogation officer and theyll tell you!

cheers
12-05-2013 01:26 PM
Minnesail
Re: Google Glass and it's effect on sailing

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Originally Posted by BentSailor View Post
More importantly, talking on the phone is no more distracting than talking to someone in the car, both are conversations taking part of your attention from the road and with the phone the instinct to make eye contact is removed from the equation.
This intuitively makes sense, but it's not what happens in reality according to a study by the University of Utah that's been replicated elsewhere.
Drivers Distracted More By Cell Phones Than By Passengers

"Drivers talking by cell phone drove significantly worse than drivers talking to passengers. The cell-phone users were more likely to drift in their lane, kept a greater distance between their car and the car in front, and were four times more likely to miss pulling off the highway at the rest area. Passenger conversation barely affected all three measures."

I've noticed this myself. I find it harder to pay proper attention to the road while I'm having a phone conversation than while talking to a passenger, even though my cell phone bluetooths into the car's stereo and a microphone in the rearview mirror.

This could tie in with sailing. You think you can take your eyes off all the gadgets and pay attention to your surroundings, but you might be more distracted than you realize.



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Originally Posted by christian.hess View Post
if you think drivers are bad there, DO not drive down here...somalia is better as there are less cars!
I hear you! I've never driven in El Salvador, but I have driven in your neighbor to the north, Guatemala, and yikes!
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