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11-24-2013 12:52 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Free sailBoat

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Exactly -

As long as you do all or at least most of the work yourself it can make a LOT of economic sense.
Heres the meat of the project. Can I do the work? Is it Structural?

My LABOR $$$$ Saved
11-24-2013 12:47 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Free sailBoat

I spent five years “or so” studying all things maintenance related on sail boats before I went looking for a free boat. I was land locked in Atlanta suburbs for 25 years and came up with the plan. It was 3 stages.
1) Move to the coast
2) Find an abandoned sailboat. Not just a boat but one with a good reputation.
3) Take it from the owner by legal means.
4) Bring it back to life.
But the #1 part of the plan was to do a good survey. To do a good survey, I had to learn about the boat its construction, its flaws and the like. So I studied. I even I even went to Lake Lainer and traded labor for sailing lesions with the Lord Nelson charter company to learn the maintenance.
For example on the C&C30MK1 there were a few things I was warned about.
1) Balsa cored deck, Water intrusion and soft spots. I found no such intrusion after tapping and moisture checks,
2) wood mast steep in the forward bilge, (soggy, rotten) Mine was on a aluminum plate.
3) Toe rail leaking. Maintenance item. It needed it tighten and had rotted some teak in the locker above the stove. I repaired it and tightened the toe rail. Leak stopped
I have seen others get in way over their heads picking out the wrong boat for this kind of project. I tell people that want my advise in the topic that first and foremost they must ask the questions and do the “MATH” on every part of the project before you purchase the boat. There is a lot to look at. A guy just looking into it may think? “It floats, it’s got an engine and a head sail and a main. Not much rotting wood on the deck. Good price. I can do some of the work. “I’ll take it! When the inspection of just the big ticket items were over looked or not inspected well. Like
Soft deck
Blisters on the bottom
Standing rigging
Running rigging
Life lines
Electronics
Lights
Engine
Fuel-tank
Head
Bilge
Just to name a few. I in-turn, Looked the boats over real good before I made any kind of action to get it. I also took my fishing boat and went from Edisto River to the Tybee-roads at Savannah River and had looked at ever moored derelict vessel. This C&C 30MK1 was the best choice and in the middle of the line of dilapidation. So I took a shot at finding the owner on my own before filing the papers with the court. So yea there is a lot of bad choices being made. But if one wants to do anything in life “Well” then he only needs to learn before he spends his money. I loved the whole process. We sailed today. What a great boat here is a photo of today.


11-23-2013 08:08 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Free sailBoat

Yeah, there is that.

I find though that there are a LOT - maybe a majority - of people who seem to regard a glass boat as landfill material when it reaches the point of needing a new engine, wiring, upholstery and some sails.

Shrewdly purchased they can be downright profitable. Doing the work yourself is a given though. If you have to write cheques for the work it's always going to be a losing proposition.

Think how much your keel grid job would have cost if you had a yard do it!
11-23-2013 02:39 PM
Faster
Re: Free sailBoat

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Exactly - that is what is never mentioned when people talk about the futility or lack of economic sense in bringing back a neglected boat.

As long as you do all or at least most of the work yourself it can make a LOT of economic sense.
Yes but this was a bit of an exceptional case.. a GOOD boat, neglected but not structurally flawed, with mostly good gear, very different from the more typical "found this boat, free, it's only been laying on its side and flooded two (or three) times, the deck kinda feels like a trampoline and the motor won't turn over..the bilge looks like a chemistry experiment, and the interior is kinda stained - water leaks maybe??... whaddyathink?" type of posts we get here...
11-23-2013 02:23 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Free sailBoat

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Originally Posted by downeast450 View Post
When you look at similarly priced boats (similar to what you have invested) you are not looking at boats with all the systems in new condition and are likely in need of what you have done to yours.
Exactly - that is what is never mentioned when people talk about the futility or lack of economic sense in bringing back a neglected boat.

As long as you do all or at least most of the work yourself it can make a LOT of economic sense.
11-23-2013 02:19 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Free sailBoat

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Originally Posted by tonytheboat View Post
Cant beat that, she looks great,
but it looks like ive picked a sixty footer up for scrap price im flying out in jan to look over her and pass the dollars over then i'll have two month to do the work and sail her down to panama and the across the pond, single handed this time, ive done it once with three people and once with two, watch and watch about, I lost three stone,anybody in san diego jan /feb look out for a welsh dragon flag at the mast head and come and say hello to the lunatic underneath it , ( most probs covered in anti foul or deck paint), to all of you out there good sailing and stay safe, tony
Pics or it didn't happen.
11-23-2013 10:31 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Free sailBoat

Hey Tony,
I had a chance opportunity to meat Jim Patek. He has a great story of his multi trips around the world. I put a few words together on my blog about him.
Take a look and see if you know him.

S/V East Coast Lady

Cheers and God Speed on your trip. I would love to go one day.
Curt
11-23-2013 09:41 AM
tonytheboat
Re: Free sailBoat

Cant beat that, she looks great,
but it looks like ive picked a sixty footer up for scrap price im flying out in jan to look over her and pass the dollars over then i'll have two month to do the work and sail her down to panama and the across the pond, single handed this time, ive done it once with three people and once with two, watch and watch about, I lost three stone,anybody in san diego jan /feb look out for a welsh dragon flag at the mast head and come and say hello to the lunatic underneath it , ( most probs covered in anti foul or deck paint), to all of you out there good sailing and stay safe, tony
11-23-2013 08:59 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Free sailBoat

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Originally Posted by capta View Post
Did you get a citation for destroying the protected marine ecosystem on your bottom?
No citation but they did knock the big stuff off while it was still over water.
Smart idea or they would gain a lot of buildup over the winter haulout season.
11-23-2013 08:56 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Free sailBoat

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
How did you get a new Yannie for $3500? Was it your original engine rebuilt?

Great job by the way - you've got a great boat for dirt cheap.
No I found one on e-Bay. Had a compression check done and had it shipped after it passed of course. $3,000 a little shipping money.
Then I did the oil change, Trans oil Change, impeller and antifreeze. Not sure the hours on the boat. It came off a lake and was used 1 to sometimes 4 times a year according to the marina where it was kept?
I have been using it sense August. No problems. Little smoke on start up, it clears right up.
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