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03-02-2007 12:15 AM
camaraderie You are gonna get a professional survey of hull rig and engine right??? The insurance company will want one anyway. Suggest you await surveyor's results before getting too excited.
03-01-2007 11:12 PM
sailingdog Actually, if the brown rust is coming from between the strands it can indicate a serious problem with the rigging IIRC. Stainless steel is just that... stain less...not stain free... and it will rust, especially if it is either deprived of oxygen or exposed to certain chemicals.

If the rigging is swaged, then I would definitely want to closely inspect the lower swages as they are the ones that tend to fail first.

Re-doing the running rigging isn't much of a problem...just a pain in the butt.

Major differences between CNG, which is primarily methane, and Propane is that CNG is lighter than air, and doesn't require the same ventilation of the gas locker that Propane does. Also, the pressure that the gas is used at is different, as is the volume used. Propane has a much higher energy density IIRC.

Why do you want a power winch?? It might make more sense to get a manual winch that is large enough to handle whatever it is that you want. The installation of an electric winch requires you to run electrical wiring, and to make fairly large holes in the deck to accommodate the winch motor.

As for heaters... it would be best to get a heater that uses one of the fuels you already have aboard...either propane, since you'll be converting the galley to propane, or diesel. They have about the same energy density as heating fuels go. Personally, I would go with a diesel heater, rather than a propane one.
03-01-2007 10:41 PM
k1vsk I wouldn't worry too much about minor discoloration of the wire but I would closely inspect all fittings and the wire-to-fitting joints which are the weak links in any rigging. The terminals, swages and turnbuckles will likely go before the wire and a thorough rigging inspection sounds in order here. I'd also quickly check the rigging with a magnet to make sure someone didn't replace the original Hunter 316 stainless wire with a cheap substitution which has ferrous metal in it to cause the rust. You can polish the wire but the reason it shows rust concerns me and just cleaning it won't fix the problem.
03-01-2007 10:36 PM
tacojohnston k1vsk, thanks for the quick reply and great answers. If the rigging just shows some "rust" looking signs (minor brown color in strands) (yes I know it's stainless and shouldn't technically rust) is there a way to bring it back to life without remove and replace?

03-01-2007 10:17 PM
k1vsk Theres are goreat boats with lots of miles under their keels and make comfortable live-aboards.
Other than the stove/oven burner replacement,the CNG to propane conversion other problem is a proper locker for the cylinder and one of the stern lockers are typically used since they are easily vented. Running hoses is a pain in the ass but doable with lots of patience.
you can replace the rigging yourself and save a few bucks if you know how to swage but it sounds like you might be better off getting an estimate from a few riggers - should be around $2000 tops and you won't save that much diy.
The cost for replacing all running rigging can vary depending on what type lines you choose between $1000 - $1500.
The elec halyard winch is around $3000 plus a few hundred more for cables, breaker, etc and a simple diy project if you know/learn how to do the wiring in which case you'll save probably $500 on labor.

the other stuff is mostly labor depending on how bad the interior is and what type heater you want.

In general, if it's that badly cared for cosmetically I'd be more leary of what latent problems might also exist
03-01-2007 10:00 PM
Calling all Hunter 42 Passage owners and others that can help

Found a Hunter 42 Passage (1993) in rough shape and need of upgrades to make it my dream boat. Specifically interested cost/time/difficulty in the following repairs/upgrades:
1) CNG to propane, I can get good estimates for the stove/oven but how hard and costly is the replacement of the lines and proper propane tank storage.
2) Rigging has some evidence of corrision but looks structurally sound how do I fix it or replace it
3) nearly all lines need replacing
4) want to add a power winch, any estimates for do-it-your self
5) interior is rough, need to refinish wood and clean leather, any thoughts
6) a cabin heater (forgot to mention this will be a liveaboard in Seattle area)

There are many other maintenance items but most just need elbow grease and time which I have enough of, I think? Any other thoughts from your knowlegeable group would be most appreciated

Thanks Ron

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