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03-11-2007 07:08 AM
Tubsmacker Thanks for the tips Sailorman, I'd sell the kids if it wasn't likely to start a sale of goods/trade descriptions issue!

I'm off sailing for a week now (refresher training) which in the UK is likely to be er... cold.

C U Soon!
03-10-2007 10:05 AM
Sailormann Sunbrella is acrylic - which as others have told you, will not dye well... unless you have access to commercial dyeing facilities which can do it. You might be able to talk to a smaller fabric jobber to see if there is anyone in your area who will do it. The chemistry of the dye needs to be compatible with acrylics, and the heat required to set it is relatively high.

Don't have any knowledge of things across the pond, but here in Canada, the dyers are frequently referred to as "fabric converters" as well as dye houses.
It costs about $400.00 a vat to do here...and if you doing a small run, then you have to wait for a down time - the business tends to be very seasonal, so it's not unusual for the plants to slow down.

Otherwise - there is a paint made by Crylon that is designed to bond with plastic - they advertise it here as being ideal for cheap garden furniture - apparently very flexible. Buy a small can and try it on a scrap or hidden piece before you spray everything.

If you choose to use fabric paint, make sure that you get one made for acrylic fabrics, and plan on thinning it and applying many, many coats. Because your fabric has been worn and the finishing has worn off unevenly, the first few coats need to be applied as a primer/base coat. Otherwise you are going to end up with a tie-dyed look.

Something else to think about - if you or someone you know is handy with a sewing machine, buy some nylon and cover the covers. Take the Sunbrella items off of your boat and lay each section flat on top of a large piece of paper. Trace around it for a pattern, then add an allowance to turn under to get a neat edge. Sew the edges under first, then sew it onto the cover. If you get a little creatvie, you can probably get by with just recovering/reinforcing areas of the covers, and not having to do the whole things....

Also - Check out the "Sailrite" website - they sell kits that can save you a lot of money.

Me - I would sell one of the children or the barter a kidney or something and get new ones...
03-10-2007 07:39 AM
Tubsmacker Thanks Mark, I inherited the covers and thought that they were a good idea. The Boat is in salt water all the time and the winches are like new under the covers. to be honest, the winch covers etc are easily re-makeable. I like your idea about gettin the sailmaker to reverse the Genoa cover. I'll try that idea thanks.
PS Love the pic of your Boat. Looks superb
03-09-2007 06:55 PM
Waymar83 Tubs,

Your other consideration is do you really need all these covers? Waymar (our Jeanneau) is 1983 vintage and never had winch covers as far as I know. (We sail out of Kingston, Ontario so that means 5-6 months a year and no salt water spray and no dust storms.) Winches work just fine.

If you really want to keep the covers ( including the genoa cover), you can also ask the sailmaker to reverse the zippers/fasteners etc.

If the sailmaker is still asking too much, you can also shop around to someone who has a heavyduty sewing machine. (e.g. furniture upholsterer or shoe/leather repair).

Of course this does not work for the dodger...

Good luck. I also agonise over what is nonetheless perfectly serviceable and yet does not meet the better half's standards for esthetic.
03-08-2007 04:17 AM
Tubsmacker I think that looks great Mark and is a cool idea. My G/F on the other hand would not be happy unless everything was the same colour! There are covers on everything wheel, winches you name it. These minor items can be home made as replacements but the boat also has a fully zipped Genoa cover which is a more complicated affair/can't be reversed as far as I know (will check though, thanks) and costs $650 to replace according to the sailmaker. The boom cover is substantially less but is still in excellent condition apart from the UV fading as are the others.
03-07-2007 06:49 PM
Waymar83 If you are talking mostly about the covers for the mainsail, winch, BBQ, etc, (as opposed to the dodger or bimini), have you tried simply reversing the covers.

I did that with the mainsail cover (it was just as faded as the dodger in the pic). Reversed, it looks great except for the more visible stitching.
03-07-2007 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Tubsmacker
Lol, I stand corrected Sir. That, Sailingdog, is why you are a Senior member here and I am a Junior one!
LOL...'s just that my work lets me play on the internet way too much, especially when it is cold up here and my boat is out of the water for the winter season.
03-07-2007 06:24 PM
Tubsmacker Lol, I stand corrected Sir. That, Sailingdog, is why you are a Senior member here and I am a Junior one!
03-07-2007 06:09 PM
sailingdog IIRC, the white sunbrella is the material that breaks down the fastest... the darker colors have better UV resistance. The color won't fade on the white ones...but it might yellow, and it can stain pretty easily.
03-07-2007 05:37 PM
Tubsmacker I agree with Sailingdog on the issue of breath-ability that needs further investigation. I think the weight issue is perhaps not so important after all, these things are locker bound when underway are they not? Furthermore, the product can be thinned and sprayed on it appears. As for UV, my initial point was that the UV damaged the colour but not the fabric itself. I'm not being overly miserly, it's just that it seemed a shame if not environmentally wasteful to dump covers simply because of the fading. I wonder if the once breathable Sunbrella could be ventilated with vent studs to make up for the plastic tool dip solution?

It is nice to see such interest in my humble question. I do however view the option of simple replacement as simply 'giving in' and not improving the 'status quo'. Having said this, I think those that buy white covers initially, buy wisely indeed!
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