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Jeanneau Attalia

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#1 ·
Hi all,

I've been reading the sailnet fora for a few years and have not come across anyone with any comments about the Jeanneau Attalia. Anybody have any info/experience? My 1983 has served very well for the past 4 yrs (on Lake Ontario).

I have really only one minor irritant on my boat: no hot water.

Mark
 
#185 ·
I too love the vacuum pump out but can't seem to locate one in Barbados...and I don't seem to have any valves or hoses that would indicate ability to pump overboard. Which I did not care about when I was in Canada but now.... It looks like I will have to do some re engineering.

Racing Saturday! Good on you. I can't wait for the racing season to start here. Mango Bowl end of November in St-Lucia..
 
#186 ·
Arcadia Headlining Replacement

Mark,

WHile it does not show the pipe routing, here is the article on the jeanneau owners site of my head redo. You can see on the back wall a slightly triangular black part. That is my manual pump to pump the tank overboard. The actual tank is behind this wall in the cockpit locker. Then it becomes a matter of getting the approx 2" hoses from the head to the tank to the pump and overboard. Or fit a Y with in the cabinet, then a pipe to the overboard valve.

Marty
 
#187 ·
i think I figured out what to do. My particular model of Attalia does not have a valve with a thru hull. It ONLY goes into the holding tank and the tank can only be pumped out. I think it was finished for the Great Lakes and not for any offshore work where you can discharge. Rather than haul out and put in a thru hull with a series of valves etc, I'm going to use a an electric diaphragm pump with a 1 1)2 connector to the holding tank deck fitting with some connecting pipe and then, when I'm offshore in clement weather, I,ll hook it up and send it overboard.
 
#189 ·
Hi every one,

This is my first time writing on this form,

I would like to introduce myself, I am an owner of Jeanneau Attalia 1986, since 2000 and I absolutely love my boat. Through out the years I have been sailing with my boat (AKA Bettina) through the Mediterranean sea. from Israel to Cyprus, Turkey, Greece, Italy and Spain, my Bettina took anywhere safe and sound.

I am sailing with my Bettina not only for cruising but also for racing and I have more than a dozen trophies achieved over the years.



I would love to share my experiences and to learn from all Jeanneau Attalia Owners out there as a pround owner of this wonderful model

Have a safe sailing
Ido
 
#191 ·
Dear Jens,

Thank you for the warm welcome. since we have the same boat (and the same year as well) I can tell you she is more than capable to compete, the Attalia is in her best performance when sailing on 13-15 knots winds.

Here is another picture from another race we participate in (we got to third place :))

 
#192 ·
Interesting hull paint job.

These older boats WILL and can win races. But some winds they do better at. For me it is 10-15+ that I can get my Arcadia to kick her heels up and go. Less than 5 like a month ago in a race, I always seem to be dead in the water.

Marty
 
#194 ·
Dear Ido
Yes, she is doing better with more wind, especially when the waves are not high. Another issue is probably the constant temptation to point too high - still keeping the sails in shape but loosing speed without noticing, before too late. And heeling should probably never be more than 20-25 degrees.
I stayed at The Park Plaza Orchid Hotel in Tel Aviv in 2011 and took a walk in the Tel Aviv marina where I saw an Attalia - was that yours?
Best regards
Jens
 
#195 ·
If you been in 2011 in Tel Aviv you most likely saw my boat, as far as I can tell there are only three Attlia's in Israel. Today I am mooring in Herzelia Marina which is not that far away. If you have come to Israel again you are always welcome to join me for sailing.

Consider it an open invitation.

Ido
 
#197 ·
Hi guys!
Welcome Ido! Glad to see you actively sail. As you will have seen from the thread, I finally got my boat to Barbados. Also started racing. so any tips you have on squeezing performance would be most welcome. Next week I'm off to ST-Lucia for their Mango Bowl. and in January we have the Round Barbados Race series. should be fun.
 
#198 ·
New Question!

I am looking for some Attalia wisdom here.

I recently did a return crossing Barbados-St-Lucia-Barbados. Starboard Tack to St-Lucia and Port Tack return journey.

When on a Port Tack (healing with starboard hull well in the water), I get water ingress. Not sure where from. Its not any of the thru hulls in the head there are two (I had these closed during the crossing).

I'm thinking it may be through the manual bilge pump in the head. I'm not sure if all Attalias have it but on the stern wall in the head I have a y valve with a manual pump and one of hoses ends in the head floor. It's the only thru hull on the starboard side left (which I believe exits the hull on the starboard side close to the stern.
The Jeanneau Attalia Manual I have is unclear when it comes these thru hulls.

Any wisdom/ideas/thoughts would be welcome. I am now in salt water and water down below is very damaging so I would like to avoid it if possible ;).
 
#199 · (Edited)
Dear Mark,

According to my experience, you should also check the following places:

1. If it comes from the stern, (I have an 1986 Model) the only places that I could think of is the speedometer, Depth meter system sensors, they are located against the stern wall, and in the 1986 model under the L shape chair.

Other location that you should check:

2. Propeller shaft - This is most common, check the gland and touch it, if it is wet and there is a pool under, you have to tighten the screws or replace the gland rope.

3. Toilet, Sink hoses - open the cabin underneath the sink and check what's going on in there, notice that there are three hoses two from the toilet (in/out) one from the sink. check that all of them are dry.

4. Open water hos for engine cooling - you will find it in front of your engine, going down the bottom and through the engine, flow the line and check if there is a leak.

5. If the salty water are dirty it could be from the exhaust system, follow the exhaust pipe/hose and check that it is dry all the way till the aft cabinet - (If this is the reason, you will only have water in your boat when the engine is running)

6. The Manual bilge pump, is in the WC room on the aft - never happened to me, but could be the reason (most likely not since the out hos isn't going under the water line)

Good Luck

Ido
 
#200 ·
Thanks Ido,

I'm still stumped. went for a sail again on Sunday. One tack pretty much each way. Nice 20kts of breeze. On the starboard tack, no water ingress. dry bilge. On the return trip, port tack all the way, healing at about 10-15%. Nice comfortable sail. Not much in terms of waves so the bow was not getting any action and no water on deck. I really don't see where the water can be coming from. The rail was not in the water so it could not be the joint.

Its clean salt water which ends up under the floorboards in several sections as far forwards as the one section just forward of the bilge (a little water), with the bulk of the water coming in further aft specifically the sections of the bilge and the two other sections further aft right up to and in front of the engine. The only thru hull would be the engine exhaust (which is on the starboard side near the transom) but then the space between the stringers where the engine is only takes in water from the prop shaft which is a little water a day, quite manageable and the thru hull for the engine water intake, which does not leak. These would take in water even when the boat is docked, which is very little. It is clearly when and only when the boat is on a port tack.

I routinely close the thru hulls for the head and sink while underway so its not that either.

I really want to solve this as I unscrewed the floorboards to rinse off the salt water after each sail. Annoying. Salt water also damages if left so I pump it out and then rinse it with fresh water.

Sherlock Holmes, where are you?:confused:
 
#201 ·
Dear Mark
Certainly an important problem. No bright ideas. I would use the Sherlock Homes looking glass: keep the floorboards off, cover the bilge with paper towel, go sailing, se where the water first comes in.
Best luck
Jens
 
#203 ·
Thanks,

Have not been out for about two weeks so have not been able to investigate further.

Jonas, curious about the PSS-seal. was it complicated to install? (it looked easy in the video but that was done in a shop with new parts all round and not in the engine compartment.
 
#204 · (Edited)
Hello Waymar,

It was quite easy to change to the PSS-seal. The problem was linked to the "great" space around the shaft. :rolleyes: I hade to make a bigger hole in the wall between the engine compartment and the space behind (where I have my batteries). I did that for hand with a small tiger saw. Before that I had released the shaft from the engine and pushed it backward, to get more working space. (Check the end of the shaft to make sure there are no sharp edges - they can destroy the new seal.) With a bigger hole it was "just" to get down to it and mount the new seal, according to the instructions. I fixed the end of the venting in the starboard locker, to make sure it's over the water surface.

Take a look at the pictures and good luck!
Jonas
 

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#205 ·
Backstay adjuster?

Hello,

I'm about to change my backstay adjuster from a mechanical type to an arrangement with cascade and a mainsheet system. I have a masthead rig. Does anyone else have the system I've explained above? I wonder how much force will occur in the system, which leads to how strong the equipment have to be. Any experience?

/Jonas
 
#206 ·
Oh yeah, I know ALL ABOUT that vent for a pss shaft. I was the first one the shop did with a vent on a sail boat. Not a big deal while motoring. But first time we were sailing, my daughter went below, yells up, dad, is there supposed to be water above the floor boards?!?!?!?!

Oh sheet! so lots of bailing etc later, I figure out the vent is bringing water inside theboat. prop is moving.....so I vicegrip the end of the tube, problem solved temporarily any how. Later look at directions, and figure out the vent tube is to be ABOVE the waterline in a loop per say......opening was BELOW the water line! hmmmmmm no wonder it was siphoning into the bilge! Any way, "I" redid the vent tube, no issues with this since.

Altho a year ago, came back to boat after a few days, water again above the floor boards. See water coming in from the shaft seal. Pull boat, empty before and after pulling....... The carbon shaft seal had loosened over the years. Also again based on directions, figured out the intial installer, did not tighten the shaft seal as tight as directions call for, so when it went, it went.

not sure I would go with another pss, or go back to a packing gland, both are good, both bad.

Marty
 
#207 ·
Rig and chainplate

Hello,

I´m thinking about get a new pole and reinforce the chainplates.

1. Have anyone changed pole from masthead to partial(?) rig (7/8)? What´s your experience?

2. Have anyone reinforced the chainplates in your Attalia? How did you do?

/Jonas
 
#209 ·
Hi Waymar,

Yes, I'm thinking about replacing my mast with at fractional rig. In the east coast of Sweden the average wind speed is around 7 knots. My opinion, according to that, is that we can have more sail on our Attalia in Sweden compare to an Attalia sailing for example the coast outside La Rochelle (14 knots). I´ll meet "my" sailmaker tomorrow to discuss how much sail we can have, optimized to winds around 7 knots. We´re doing good in winds around 23 knots, without any reefs and full genua (140%). But in our normal winds we have problems to hold speed (maybe it says more about me and not the boat :eek:).

I think (hope) the advantage is a faster boat, better opportunities to trim and better to go high in the wind. I think there will be wrapped spreaders (correct name in english?) and therefore we can probably sheet the foresail closer to the centre line.

Another reason to change the mast is that it´s 30 year and nothing has been changed before. I'm afraid that the mast one day or another will get of the boat by itself with little help from the wind. That might ok during a race, but not when we´re out on a family trip.

/Jonas
 
#210 ·
You may just need to replace the standing rigging itself. The mast itself should be ok.

For 7 knots of wind, you probably need a 155 that is made of some light cloth. IE something that will only work in winds to maybe 10 knots. Or a code 0 might be another option, as those are around 180% of your foretriangle area.

These two options would be my first ones.

Another to look at, locally 2 Arcadias have had mast dismastings, and that was due to the cabin top deck attachment point. THere is apparently wood under this part, and it rots, when it rots enough, it give way, the mast comes down. Mine is hsowing signs of this. Whether or not the Attalia has the same issue, I do not personally know. But worth looking at if you go as far as you are replacing things.

Another option frankly, if you are going to replace the rig, find a carbon setup from another boat about the same size. THen at least you lose some upper wt aloft going to a lighter stick, which should help the ballast a bit better in higher winds.

Marty
 
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