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03-14-2014 09:49 AM
Multihullgirl
Re: Sewing machine corner

I used to and sometimes still do work in a canvas house, and I do a sideline biz repairing sails and fabricating canvas stuff. (disclaimer)

There are quite adequate machines available for the $300 or maybe even less range. These machines are not walking foot. They are regularly used in sail and canvas fabrication houses. ex: Schurr Sails in Pensacola FL has something like five P138s in-house.

I refer to the PFAFF 130 and the PFAFF 138.

The 130 is a small machine, and it has zag. Very portable. The 130 will sew anything from silk to sails. You can find these for anywhere from next to nothing to the $250 range. There is a restorer on eBay who commands high prices but these are restored machines. Hand cranks are available for the P130. My 130 will go on the boat with me.

The 138 is larger, more of a dedicated industrial machine, it also has zag. I have had more trouble with lighter cloth with my 138 but that may be on my end. I've seen these from $300 on up to about $800. The 138 has a longer throat area which makes it easier to use for larger items. It is heavy, though, not so portable as the 130

I have hot-rodded both my machines by adding extra springs to the pressor foot shaft, and I've installed more aggressive-toothed feed dogs. In the shop, I learned how to help the cloth along by pulling it, you learn with some practice how to help feed your machine.

Sailmaker's Supply, where I did work, carries not only notions and fabric, but also a very nice Consew DC servo motor (she can get all sorts of stuff, just ask). I'm addicted to the servo motor. It's got a smoother acceleration, and you can control its speed without having to install small pulleys (like on a big 1/2-horse motor), and it's DC so I should think I can set it up for the boat, nevertheless this little motor is light and tiny, it's really the shizzle.

My travelling rig is the Pfaff 130 with the Consew servo. Light, powerful, quality.
03-14-2014 03:12 AM
amphicar
Re: Sewing machine corner

Brian,
I have send you an email , please send it to me

thanks Peter
03-13-2014 10:56 PM
Missingyou
Re: Sewing machine corner

I have the manual for the 563 and 563N as well. Can send if you like.
03-13-2014 07:56 PM
amphicar
Re: Sewing machine corner

Hi I am new to this forum .
I bought a Juki 563 today and can not find a proper copy online
I tried to PM you but because I am a new member it is impossible to do.
Can you help me with a copy ?
Peter
12-28-2013 06:39 AM
TejasSailer
Re: Sewing machine corner

A Juki 563 in good condition with a servo motor for $500 is a real deal. Here's a refurbished one for $1265.

Refurbished Juki LU-563 on Stand

Send me a PM if you'd like a good copy of the user manual and/or parts manual in pdf form.

Also, you might be interested in chapter 4, Sewing Machine Repair, of the following link that states.

"Your shop may have the Consew Model 225, the Juki LU-562, or the Singer Model 111 W 155 sewing machine. These three sewing machines are essentially identical, and all specifications and instructions are the same for all three sewing machines. For simplicity we will use the Singer 111 W 155 as a model for all three sewing machines."

The juki 562 and 563 are essentially the same except that the 563 has a large bobbin. The manual fails to mention that the Juki has reverse.

http://navybmr.com/study%20material2...RA%2014217.pdf
12-28-2013 02:09 AM
Missingyou
Sewing machine corner

I just dragged an old Juki LU 563 back from Hamilton Ontario, it's built like a tank. $500, which included a new servo motor. It went through two thick pieces of leather like butter. I plan to make a winter cover with it, among other things. It's a compound feed walking foot machine, but unfortunately not very portable. Lifting it and the table took two of us.
12-23-2013 03:58 PM
TejasSailer
Re: Sewing machine corner

If you have room and the time to wait, sometimes a Singer 111W155 becomes available on craigslist. The 111W155 is an industrial compound walking-foot machine. My earlier post on compound walking-foot machines on this thread might be helpful.

The disadvantages include: used, likely heavily used; $500 might be about as good as you could do (I got one with a clutch motor for $325); probably not be equipped with a servo motor; no reverse.

Also, seeming lightly used Sailrite LS machines can sometimes be found for about $500 on craigslist.

Actually, trading off lack of reverse for compound-feed can be a good trade off. The most common use of reverse is back-tack to lock the stitch. Here's what old-time professional sewers did before reverse. When fabric management is not an issue, simply bury the needle, turn the fabric 180 degrees and sew over the seam to lock the stitch. Otherwise, with the needle up, raise the foot a bit, pull the fabric toward you about an inch, drop the foot and sew over the stitch to lock the stitch. Raising the foot slightly does not open the tension discs, and enough tension is retained on the needle thread that the thread does not need to be held.

Having said that, reverse is useful in other situations to help mitigate fabric management, such as sewing around a patch, especially in the middle of a large piece. Needing to turn the fabric a total of 360 degrees is a real hassle trying to get lots material under the arm. Instead, sew one side of the patch, bury the needle, turn the fabric 90 degrees counter-clockwise and sew the next side, bury the needle, turn the fabric 90 degrees clockwise and sew the third side in reverse, bury the needle, turn the material 90 degrees counter-clockwise and sew the final side.

In your search, you might also consider a Juki 562 or 563 (the 563 has a larger bobbin). The design is similar to the 111W and the quality seems just as good.
12-23-2013 03:47 PM
Ferretchaser
Re: Sewing machine corner

Quote:
Originally Posted by hurricanehole View Post
Hi-thanks for doing this. I have a red sailrite machine and would like to know if I could take it to my moored boat and sew with it running off a small red honda generator, EU200i. If so that would push me over the edge in buying a small gen.
At the moment, our EU200i is running the full size fridge, Christmas decoration lights, two laptops, keeps the boats batteries charged and running the Sail Rite sewing machine. All on the economy setting and it is not even picking up the revs. Been doing that for 3 weeks now day in day out.

ATB

Michael
12-23-2013 03:40 PM
gedaggett
Re: Sewing machine corner

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Originally Posted by heelangle View Post
Has anyone used any of the other Singer machines with success? Prices range from $99 - 499 on the net.

I just broke my old mechanical Singer and need a replacement for canvas, cushions and general repairs. I am not going to do any sail making. That I am going to leave to the experts.

Can you recommend any models?
If you wanted a singer here are a couple that I saw in your area on the cheap.

The 301 and 401 machines are decent machines that are a little step up from the home machine. They can handle the thickness of the material pretty well and as are still somewhat compact. There are some other machines out there that would be good though best thing to do is see what you can find and then ask questions about specific models. Here are some CL listings.

Heavy Duty Singer 401A sewing machine with Carrying Case


Singer CG-550C commercial sewing machine
12-23-2013 02:29 PM
Alex W
Re: Sewing machine corner

What broke on your mechanical Singer? Might it be cheaper/easier to fix than to replace?

I have a lower end Pfaff Hobby that works nicely on cushions and lighter weight materials. It is easier to use (threading, bobbin winding, built in thread snipper all make it faster for me to use) so I use it until I need the power of the Sailrite machine. I leave my Sailrite machine adjusted for higher tension and pressure foot tension and the Pfaff adjusted for lighter fabrics.
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