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03-22-2007 10:47 PM
Break the trip into two legs

Southwest flys BWI to Norfolk for 49 bucks.

If your time is a challenge it might be easier to find two small windows rather than one long one. Do Oriental to Norfolk, leave her in Norfolk when you fly home to BWI. Then wait until your next window, fly down and sail her up the Bay.

I've shipped big boats lots of times: Annapolis--San Francisco, Annapolis- Fort Lauderdale twice each-- because I've not had the time for real voyages. It's always tough on them-- hulls flex and seams (especially around portlights) open up and leak and pulling the stick and standing rigging is just a pain in the ass. It always takes a while to get everything dialed back in.

So I'd break the trip into manageable segments. Even with airfare and temporary slip, you'll still spend less and have a broken-in boat that you know well. Not to mention it's a lot more fun to sail a boat than disassemble and reassemble one.
03-21-2007 10:56 AM
hellosailor Archis-
On schedules in general? The first time I was out for a week I asked someone if they could pick me up when I got back. They couldn't understand that the time I was returning would be "probably Saturday sometime" and for many trips, THAT would be way too tight a time window.
Especially with a "new to you" boat, you have to figure a trip based on minimum/maximum numbers with a best and worst guesstimate. And then, consider that you may lose a day or two en route if you find and then have to fix something unexpected. You might want to look at one of the towing membership programs too--because a long trip in a "new to you" boat can become a lot longer if you need a thousand dollar tow, which isn't a big number.

Not to hijack the thread, but for long solo watches or drives, I've found audiobooks can be a great companion. Downloadable for a fee from or available free at your local library, on CD or tape. A typical novel can be 12 hours long on audiobook. Like any other "distraction" you just have to realize that's what it is, make sure it doesn't zone you out or stop you from hearing anything else.
03-21-2007 08:29 AM
ibedwardp Don't know if this will help much, but we moved my 36 Cape Dory from Annapolis to Oriental last November. Took 3 1/2 days with a crew of 4 (one experienced volunteer and 3 landlubbers). Left Annapolis about 5 pm and arrived in Norfolk next day at about 3pm. Next night anchored out on waterway, then next at a Bellhaven marina. The only weather was in the Neuse near Oriental. All without incident or close calls. We motored almost all the way averaging close to 6 knots. The current was with us in the Chesapeake and we were showing 7+ on the gps at times. Doing the bay at night seemed daunting at first and there was a LOT of commercial traffic, but plenty of seaway if you stayed alert. Autopiilot would't have helped much as you pretty much have to "drive" the boat on the bay because of the traffic. Good luck! BTW, Oriental is a great place sail. See you at the Bean. Ed Bailey
03-21-2007 06:59 AM
Archis Well in the end, hiring a captain and taking the time off of work makes the most sense. So that's what I'm going to do
03-21-2007 04:08 AM
camaraderie Hey Flomaster...You are right about the is so neat the first time... but Archis doesn't seem to have the ability to navigate and drive the boat himself yet...and his friend does not have the necessary time so I guess overland and having the boat in the bay for the season does have advantages.
Saw a spider in Manteo today!!....but I think he is hibernating again tonight!!
03-21-2007 12:00 AM
sailingdog Flomaster-

When you have a tight schedule to meet...doing 50 mph over land beats doing 5 over water... Our spiders are still hibernating...
03-20-2007 11:31 PM
flomaster Never thought I'd see the day when people in a 'sailing' forum would tell someone to move their boat over ground. JMHO, though. NC is my current stomping grounds, although I'm in the New River right now. Oriental is on the Neuse, which is an outstanding place to get to know your boat, given you have even just a little time. Enough to get you up the ICW, anyway. Besides, the trip is breathtaking. So many gorgeous things to see on that trip.

Just out of curiosity, anyone get a butt load of spiders jumping down on their boat going through the dismal swamp besides me?
03-18-2007 11:54 AM
sailingdog Glad to help.... nice to see someone who is reasonable about accepting advice given in good faith... Unlike Ryan or Dogsailors...
03-18-2007 09:03 AM
Archis Thanks everyone for your input, at least now I know the route and the issues. At this point I'm leaning towards overland due to my experience level, time constraints and not knowing the boat. Thanks again for all of your help.
03-18-2007 08:53 AM
Loewe Have a very flexible schedule with regard to the bridges S of Portsmouth. Check your NTM's and plan around the "normal" opening schedules. Malfunctions and closures are common. Remember almost none of your commercial traffic will answer you on 16. 13 is the channel and as long as you contact them first and are respectful of their professional vs your recreational mariner staus, they are great folks to be on the water with. Remember also the 500yard NVPZ and obey it! Took the Stark/Cole incidents to bring about a common sense practice, but like grandpa said, "that there common sense aint so common!" If you decide to stopover in our area give a shout. We are just abeam the "16" in the Hampton Reach.
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