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12-29-2013 02:21 PM
PCP
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
CaribDream - the following is not to denigrate your experience level at all. Frankly I value judgment over experience.

Still, this (not the bikini) "Ode to the Credit Card Captains", Anegada, British Virgin Islands, Caribbean - YouTube is part of what a charter operator has to worry about. *grin*
Funny thing is that the boat is called "Ciello de Dios" and around here when we see something like that we say "Deus do ceu!!!!" that is just an inversion of the boat name

Some years ago on a perfect anchorage in Croatia with a good sandy bottom, pretty crowded, we saw some guys that arrived after dark and tred to anchor with a pretty normal anchor.

They let go the anchor and pulled backwards at full speed among frightened boaters. They tried in all directions independently to the wind direction. They moved always the boat so fast that the anchor and not a chance to set.

After half an hour everybody was on the cockpits seeing the show and hopping that they did not come close. Finally to the relief of everybody they went to the small marina and after many shouts and bangs, finally we saw the mast stand still. They had finally managed, or someone for them, to moor the boat.

Regards

Paulo
12-29-2013 12:32 PM
FarCry
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

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Originally Posted by Minnesail View Post

And don't forget the holding tank. For some reason Jeannneau thinks it's OK to put a 13 gallon holding tank in a boat with three cabins.
More than half of the restroom visits could be handled while swimming, snorkeling and "cruiser showering". Just sayin'

At 7kts it should take less than 30 minutes to be 3 miles off shore to dump the tanks too...

And I am NOT defending the tank size, just providing some ways to deal with it effectively.
12-29-2013 12:04 PM
Minnesail
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
more importantly, it's hard to store enough in the fridge when you go past six.
Word.

And don't forget the holding tank. For some reason Jeannneau thinks it's OK to put a 13 gallon holding tank in a boat with three cabins.
12-29-2013 08:55 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

If you're asking how bareboat prices are set, they are for the boat, with a maximum number of passengers. You can bring as few or as many as you like.

Economically, it's always a pretty good deal to split a bareboat with another couple. Practically, boats do not accommodate the maximum publish passengers well. Some bunks will be pretty inferior, but more importantly, it's hard to store enough in the fridge when you go past six.
12-29-2013 12:05 AM
ltgoshen
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

Are the prices based per person or do they include 4 people? like on a 2 cabin 2 head boat is the price person of for the boat itself?
12-20-2013 07:12 PM
groggy
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

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Originally Posted by CaribDream View Post
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As someone said here, yes I did all the training and have gone step by step, but as he said I have yet to be fully alone and on my own. But then again, at one point or another that has to happen.
some of the charting schools require that bareboat students have done some minimum number of charters on the boats that their 103/Basic cruising qualifies them for as a prerequisite to taking 104/bareboat, in order to reduce potential disparity between certifications and experience.

Some students bristle at the idea of having to do this, perhaps concerned that it is just a ploy to get more charters out of the students, but for many people it is a good way to figure out what one needs to work on.
12-20-2013 04:08 PM
Geoff54
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

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Originally Posted by CaribDream View Post
No offense taken at all. I literally have nightmares about that video. I have seen that video seemingly hundreds of times and I still ask why why why anyone would go into a crowded mooring field with sails up etc. Especially in Anegada. Yikes. I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm sure I wouldn't do that.
He fouled his prop inside the mooring field (not sure how) and and tried to raise the sails and sail out of trouble - didn't work very well. The rest is in the video.
12-20-2013 02:53 PM
CaribDream
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Originally Posted by benesailor:1235202
CaribDream, Like you said, you have to start somewhere. I think you understand all the risks involved with a bigger boat. Just from your answers i feel confident that you have a head on your shoulders.
Just remember; bigger boats can maim or kill easier. They are much heavier than a 18' daysailor. Tell people during your safety brief about rigging loads (lost fingers), docking maneuvers (pinched hands and legs trying to fend off) and getting hit by the boat during a MOB (hull slamming in rough seas). Amongst other things. With bigger comes more respect with increased risks involved. Don't assign tasks to individuals unless you are sure they can handle them.

Have Fun!
Thanks for that. Agreed - this time is going to be my wife and I only. This way I only have to watch out for her and myself instead of other couples too. I at least know she has done this before and has gone through the same training as me. The less extraneous things I need to be responsible for will allow me to concentrate more on just the sailing/operations at hand. Maybe next time we'll take someone with us.

On a side note - during our last charter a block at the base of the mast failed while I was putting the last tension on the main halyard under the direction of my captain. That is an event I will never forget and because of that I always make sure no one is standing over that line when the main is raised. That thing would have cut a man in half. Reading about that type of failure vs seeing it does it no justice.
12-20-2013 09:39 AM
benesailor
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

CaribDream, Like you said, you have to start somewhere. I think you understand all the risks involved with a bigger boat. Just from your answers i feel confident that you have a head on your shoulders.
Just remember; bigger boats can maim or kill easier. They are much heavier than a 18' daysailor. Tell people during your safety brief about rigging loads (lost fingers), docking maneuvers (pinched hands and legs trying to fend off) and getting hit by the boat during a MOB (hull slamming in rough seas). Amongst other things. With bigger comes more respect with increased risks involved. Don't assign tasks to individuals unless you are sure they can handle them.

Have Fun!
12-20-2013 06:53 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Experience required to bareboat?

Give Ed Hamilton a call. They are charter brokers and know every operation on the island. They can give you the ups and downs and assess each for you to be sure you aren't hassled for you experience level. They are the same cost as going direct, sometime even a bit lower. They must get a vig from the charter company. We used them last we went.

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They also suggested Horizon Charters and we were very pleased with them. Boats in good repair (although every charter has something break) and folks were very helpful. I also highly preferred sailing out of Nanny Cay over Road Town.

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