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04-20-2007 05:15 AM
Rontoo There's only one way to make the adjustment properly and that's - as it said in a previous post - by using tell tales - the rest is guesswork. If you make the setting when hard on the wind, it'll be as near as dammit correct as you lay off and ease sheets. It MAY need refinement (due to the sail &/or sheet stretch) as wind strength varies. Also, depending on the size of your rig, wind variations high up and low down can be a factor - but, unless you're in the America's Cup, I wouldn't worry unduly on that score! Woolies tell it as it is!
04-19-2007 09:06 AM
TedKurtz Genoa car position effects whether the top of the jib luffs before or after the bottom of the jib luffs. Ideally, the car position should be such that luffing occurs at the same time from top to bottom

If the car is far aft, the angle of the sheet at the jib is near horizontal. Moving the car forward makes that jib angle more vertival.

A horizontal jib sheet would pull the bottom of the jib in more that the top. A vertical jib sheet would pull the top of the jib in more than the bottom.

Yuo want to play with the car position to get that jib sheet angle which causes luffing to occur uniformly as you head up.

I see lots of boats sailing with the top of the jib luffing while the bottom is curved nicely. The have their genoa cars too far aft.
04-17-2007 04:09 PM
Peter06420
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Originally Posted by Sailormon6
That's what I've seen, too. It isn't legal in class racing, but, if you keep all the old hardware and don't remove the old fittings, it can be re-installed in a few minutes. There's a photo and description at the following link:

Catalina - Capri - 25s International Association

Yeah, what he said!
If you ever intend to do any racing, your boat has to conform to restrictions of the class rules. [at least while racing :-) ]
Catalina - Capri - 25s International Association
It looks like they are pretty loose on running rigging, but _do_ restrict the traveler
04-12-2007 02:08 PM
sailingdog Ummm... occassionally... that's where all the good stuff to eat and drink is kept... and I don't have a boat wench to get them for me...
04-12-2007 01:53 PM
tenuki
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
Tenuki-

If the rope is not under tension... no problem, but if the rope is loaded and attached to a mainsail under load, and you're trying to come up out of the companionway carrying something... say lunch... it becomes a hassle.
You go down below? ;P
04-04-2007 06:04 PM
sailingdog Tenuki-

If the rope is not under tension... no problem, but if the rope is loaded and attached to a mainsail under load, and you're trying to come up out of the companionway carrying something... say lunch... it becomes a hassle.
04-04-2007 01:24 PM
tenuki
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Originally Posted by sailingdog
Tenuki-

You're thinking about mounting the traveler on the bridgedeck.. That's a pretty common location for it. A bit of a pain when you're trying to get in and out of the companionway under sail though.
Ah, Bridgedeck, I didn't know that was it's name.

Awe come on, you can't get by a little rope? ;P Seriously though, it's my favorite location for the simple reason that it can be managed from anywhere in the cockpit or even standing down in the companionway. It's right in front of you in easy reach if you are singlehanding. I can stand forward in the cockpit with the tiller held between my legs to tack and not be reaching back for the mainsheet or traveler to trim. I've sailed when the traveler is on the cabin and I haven't liked it as much because you have to get up out of your seat at the helm all the time and I hate it when it's led fully aft, always turning back and forth when trimming the sails.

Can you tell most of my sailing preferences have to do with laziness?
04-04-2007 08:05 AM
Sailormon6
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Originally Posted by Sailormann
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...actually, the tall rig has a deeper draft (the keel goes down deeper in the water) which is done to counteract the effect of the additional mainsail area...
Not so. All tall rig and standard rig Catalina 25s came with the same three optional keels - swing, wing or fin. There was no extra-deep or extra- heavy keel for the tall rig boats. Although the tall rig has to be reefed slightly sooner than the standard rig boat, it stands up surprisingly well to it's extra sail area and weight aloft. It's faster than the standard rig boat until the windspeed gets over 20, when the performance of the two becomes fairly equal. From that point on the tall rig starts to pay a price for its sail area, but even then it's by no means tender. Since most sailing is done in winds less than 20, I think the tall rig is easily the better sailing boat for most lake and bay sailing.
04-04-2007 07:19 AM
sailingdog Tenuki-

You're thinking about mounting the traveler on the bridgedeck.. That's a pretty common location for it. A bit of a pain when you're trying to get in and out of the companionway under sail though.
04-04-2007 12:30 AM
Sailormann
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the standard and the tall (I believe the hull is the same)
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...actually, the tall rig has a deeper draft (the keel goes down deeper in the water) which is done to counteract the effect of the additional mainsail area...if a "budget-conscious" builder like Catalina adds the extra draft - you can be sure it's a fairly important thing...

(this is not a shot at Catalinas - I think they are decent boats)
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