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01-11-2014 02:49 PM
Barquito
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

So, one final thought: after replacing crispy lines, and adding some chafe gear, the last consideration may be where to tie off. There may be some locations that are just untenable in certain conditions. I think if I was in a transient slip that was too bumpy, I would ask if there are any other options that have more protection. If not, then it might be safer for the boat to be anchored.
01-11-2014 02:27 PM
Stumble
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

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Originally Posted by SVAuspicious View Post
Greg - I'm shipping you a box of lines. Splicing an eye in 3-strand takes me about eight minutes. Double braid takes me 20 minutes or more. How do you figure double braid is easier to splice?
SWEET!!!

Seriously though three strand slices make my head hurt, I always loose track of which strand goes where next. It is easier in a 'get the lines to do what I need sense, but for me it is much harder in a 'keep everything organized' sense. I figure about 15 minutes for a double braid splice, and about an hour for three stand.

My trying to splice brait is like watching an OCD monkey throwing poo. Everything starts off all organized but quickly turns into a **** storm no matter how it starts.
01-11-2014 10:20 AM
Minnewaska
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

Chafe protection, particularly where the dockline will go through chocks or rub against rails is the best take away here. Buy some generic lengths, cut them to size and tack them on the lines with a few stitches. Since you'll be at random slips, all your dock lines need to be a bit longer, so you'll be flexible. However, you will probably want to set them up to go on the same cleat each time, as the chafe protection requirement is likely different at each. Just put a small mark on the chafe sleeve, such as A for aft or B for bow, etc.
01-11-2014 08:44 AM
SVAuspicious
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

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Originally Posted by paul323 View Post
Personally I don't use double braid - not enough stretch. I'd use 3-strand.
Agreed.

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Originally Posted by paul323 View Post
Given the fact your ropes parted, I think that is a clue that 1/2" was not sufficient, so 5/8 or 3/4. If in doubt, why not overkill? That way you can feel confident.
Don't agree. The issue as described is age and wear. Lines are consumable items. They need to be inspected and replaced. My fixed dock lines (5/8" on a 22,000 lb boat) get replaced every three or four years.

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Originally Posted by Stumble View Post
I like double braid. I think it is easier to splice, and has a better feel. It also coils easier and doesn't stiffen like three strand does.
Greg - I'm shipping you a box of lines. Splicing an eye in 3-strand takes me about eight minutes. Double braid takes me 20 minutes or more. How do you figure double braid is easier to splice?
01-11-2014 12:41 AM
blt2ski
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

Take your pick on the line style. I use braided, for the above mentioned reasons. Altho I do have some 3/8" 3 strand made specifically for going thru the local locks. for my 28 LOD 6500 lbs boat, a bit light for stronger winds, but for the going thru locks application, works fine.

OTher wise I believe I have 9/16 might be 1/2" for normal mooring lines. Mine are 15' long, plenty for "MY" slips application. I do have some extra 25' ones along with the 50' ones ready on the boat when at other slips/marinas where a longer rope comes in handy.

marty
01-10-2014 11:18 PM
Stumble
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

I like double braid. I think it is easier to splice, and has a better feel. It also coils easier and doesn't stiffen like three strand does.
01-10-2014 08:13 PM
benesailor
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

I like the look and feel/handling of double braid. Three strand is cheaper and easier to splice and i believe more chafe resistant.
01-10-2014 07:34 PM
Squidd
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

Looks like the vote is for 1/2" line...double braid "dock line" or three strand prefered..?
01-10-2014 09:57 AM
denverd0n
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

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Originally Posted by xort View Post
Agree that 1/2 should be plenty. Sounds like age or wear is the issue
Ditto. 1/2" line is more than strong enough, if the line is in good shape. Dock lines don't last forever. Replace them when they get worn and tattered, and you won't have any problem with 1/2" lines.
01-10-2014 09:36 AM
benesailor
Re: What Size Dock Lines do I Need ?

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I agree - 1/2" is all that is needed or they line will not stretch, putting more load on cleats. I have a CS27 of about the same displacement and have always used 1/2" double braid nylon. I also have a small snubber in the bow and stern line. I have had no issues in the 5 years I have had the boat. It does blow here - the wind hit 40 knots in the harbor last night and was measured at 52 knots a few miles away. It is blowing as I type - speed 28 knots with gusts of 38 knots.
YES, YES. No stretch is bad.

Bigger is not better. 1/2" with LENGTH is better. They always recommend your lines be 1 1/2 times the length of your boat. Obviously, all of your lines probably wouldn't need to be 45' long. I do recommend your spring lines being long with snubbers on your short lines. Don't forget chafe gear.

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I replace my docklines about every 3-4 years, or sooner if one shows signs of chafe. Old lines might look ok, but they become unreliable in a severe storm.
Cheap insurance. Looking for new gear 2 hours before a storm is not good. In addition; if tied to a dock, throughly TEST all dock cleats. I have seen numerous docks cleats rip out. It's happened to me and a friend of mines boat almost got sunk because of a bad dock cleat.
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