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1 Week Ago 02:14 PM
jimgo
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

I agree...I'd be ready to walk, unless you're getting her for a steal. Add up the cost of the repairs in your head, and add it to the cost of the boat. Is the sum close to or more than what you'd pay for another boat? Don't let shiny widgets blind you, either - if you can't sail her, or if they won't get used most of the time, the shiny widgets won't do you any good, so don't include them in the calculation.

To paraphrase the old saying...there are other boats in the sea. Besides, if you walk, the owner may change his mind. Maybe not...but maybe.
1 Week Ago 10:26 AM
Delezynski
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

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Originally Posted by LaVarlope View Post
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he suspect water intrusion into his rudder and that he think that his mainsail is to be change. He says the rudder is a easy fix and that he wont move on his price even with those 2 issues.
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Fixing a water filled rudder can be BIG $$$$. It may NOT be an easy fix.

Pay for the survey and go from there. Don't forget if you pay for the survey, IT's YOURS not the owners. If he wants a copy, he should pay half, at least.

BE READY TO WALK if he will not adjust for fixes needed!

A GOOD deal is only good IF both parties are equally unhappy!

Greg
1 Week Ago 09:37 AM
LaVarlope
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Hello again, Im closing the deal on the Tartan34 with the A4. Somethings came up, I got the price as low as I can but when the owner hauled out his boat last week and he told me that he suspect water intrusion into his rudder and that he think that his mainsail is to be change. He says the rudder is a easy fix and that he wont move on his price even with those 2 issues.

I have a surveyor booked to go over the boat this Sunday but the owner made it clear that he wont bring the price down anymore even if there other things that we find during the survey. Should I still go through or is this a RED light that I should consier.

I think my probleme is that I fell in love with that boat with all her shinny SS port and equipement It really is a well equiped boat but has the A4 RCW engine, main sail that has to be change and a soak rudder .

This is a worksheet that I made, what do you guys think am I going to kill my cruising kitty trying to make this my dream boat? or is this plan still viable.
09-20-2014 06:46 AM
Nancyleeny
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

BTW, as a cautious new sailor, I'm going to push my husband for the Tartan over an Ericson. The Ericsons are great boats, but owners tell me they are faster and the Tartans are more sturdy. I like sturdy.
09-20-2014 06:43 AM
Nancyleeny
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

I saw the boat in Vermont. We were thinking of buying it, but my husband likes the Ericsons better. It is a nice boat. I really liked it. It has the engine in a weird place,though, right near one of the "sofas." (Can't remember the name of the sofas, sorry) You can see it in one of the pictures.

My experienced sailor friend looked at it with us and said it would need some work, but was a solid boat. From the same broker, he had looked at a 1980 something Sea Sprite which I really liked but it was out of our budget, about 33k, I think. He hurt his back, so isn't looking right now.

The broker is Steve from Bruce Hill Yachts. He's a good guy. I trusted him.
Nancy
09-19-2014 11:26 PM
tumbleweed34
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

We bought a Tartan 34c this time last year and spent almost every weekend this year prepping her to be a liveaboard/cruiser. We should launch in two weeks. Ours has a yanmar 3gm, no windvane though. A windvane and a diesel would be ideal but if the atomic 4 runs good now than its just a matter of keeping up with routine engine maintenance, especially water separator filter changes. If the A4 runs good, degrease the motor and paint it. pop the engine compartment open on a routine basis, a freshly painted engine will quickly reveal any new leaks or drips and alert you to any issues. the 34c's are nicely set up, with the engine box off you can get to all sides of the engine without having to be a contortionist. good luck on your adventure
09-15-2014 03:34 PM
Antibes
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Go with the Tartan with the A4 if its is found in good shape. You can add a second fuel tank if you decide to cross the big pond.
09-15-2014 03:28 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Has the one is Maine been fixed up a lot to justify a 10k increase in the price? I think the fact the boat has done that trip should give you confidence in the model itself. A lot of things on a boat are consumable items - even if they are very expensive ones. A sail has a certain amount of life in it. Going to the Caribbean and back (5000+ nm) is using up quite a bit of life.

Windvanes are less of a concern in terms of wearing out. Various bearings and bushings on our Monitor are pretty worn, but we have bought replacements for everything ($140 I think) and will be doing a rebuild when we get back to the Caribbean. The number of engine hours matters too, but probably more important is how rigorous the maintenance schedule has been. Hard to tell this without a good (believable) maintenance log.

Did you check out the boat in Vermont? It is closer to home at least? The at Shelter Island has a diesel, radar (nice depending on where you go), and a very good price.
09-15-2014 03:13 PM
LaVarlope
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Thank you killarney_sailor , I went twice in Maine to look at this boat, I could of had it for 8k but there was so much work on it to be done that I gave up.

I like your input about the windvane, #1 has been cruising intensly the past year, All around nova scotia, out in the atlantic down to bahamas and cuba then back.

Should this concern me?? It was actually giving me confidence in the boat.
09-15-2014 03:07 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

There seem to be quite a few Tartan 34s available. The one in Maine (see below) seems pretty nice (diesel) and is US$18500. Also note that these are asking prices and this is an excellent time of the year to be buying a boat. The Maine boat has not been in the water since 2011. I suspect the seller is quite motivated and would not mind avoiding another winter of storage cost.

The cost of importing is not much and the paperwork is not a big issue. One other question I would have is whether the genoa winches (at least) are self-tailing on any of these boats. As for sail quality, the age of the sail does not tell you much. I have a 2009 Hood 135% that I could sell to you very cheaply. Only problem is that it has been used for 30,000 miles. You really have to inspect the sails (or have a sailmaker look at them) to know how good they are.

Tartan 34 boats for sale - www.yachtworld.com

Final comment, the vane steering is a very nice feature and you likely would need to buy one for your boat if it does not come with one. On the other hand, if someone put one on a boat chances are good that the boat has a lot more miles on it than a boat used for daysails on days but only when the wind was under 15 knots.
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