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10-27-2014 07:26 PM
bblument
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

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Originally Posted by Jeff_H View Post
FWIW- Whoever told you that Ericsons were faster but are more solid does not know both boats all that well. The very last Ericsons built by Pacific Seacraft were more solid than the Tartans but they were heavier and so did sail as fast as the earlier ones.

Jeff
Jeff,

I've been dreaming/looking at Tartans and Ericsons as future possibilities if/when our abilities and desires outgrow our P26. I'm interested in your comparisons above, but I confess I can't make heads and tails of it. Are there some typos in your post above? Should it read,

"Whoever told you that Ericsons were faster but Tartans are more solid does not know both boats all that well. The very last Ericsons built by Pacific Seacraft were more solid than the Tartans, but they were heavier and so did NOT sail as fast as the earlier Ericsons."

or something like that?

Thanks.. not picking nits.. just trying to figure out what you meant.

Barry
10-27-2014 06:20 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

I suspect that may just be this size of tarp he had. Would not hurt to put a Canadian Tire el cheapo tarp at each end using the mast for support. One hint, don't use the el cheapo grommets on the el cheapo tarp. Run light lines through the grommets over the top of the tarp and tie at both ends. A bit of snow on the deck will not be a problem. Some people do not cover their boats at all and have not for many years. I have a friend with a Viking 33 that he has owned since new (39 years) and he does not cover it.
10-27-2014 04:45 PM
LaVarlope
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

This is how the PO covered the boat for the winter. I wonder if the opening space at the bow and transom are a probleme? I think its good to allow airflow, but the way it is set up its leaving large opening for snow to get on deck. I was wondering if its a big deal?
10-27-2014 03:23 PM
Jeff_H
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancyleeny View Post
BTW, as a cautious new sailor, I'm going to push my husband for the Tartan over an Ericson. The Ericsons are great boats, but owners tell me they are faster and the Tartans are more sturdy. I like sturdy.
FWIW- Whoever told you that Ericsons were faster but are more solid does not know both boats all that well. The very last Ericsons built by Pacific Seacraft were more solid than the Tartans but they were heavier and so did sail as fast as the earlier ones.

Jeff
10-27-2014 02:00 PM
Bene505
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Quote:
Originally Posted by travlineasy View Post
...I then connected a Shop Van and vacuumed out as much of the moisture as possible...
You can let the shop vac run overnight, and use duct tape to seal the rudder against the vacuum hose.

You can add a hole to add additional airflow through the vaccum, if you want. It will be kinder to the shop vac, but the cost of a sheap shop vac is much less than a rudder.

Regards,
Brad
10-27-2014 01:53 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Gary, what you have to do to get the rudder off depends on where you are sitting. If you are on dirt you can dig a hole to drop the rudder. Sort of a raise the bridge, lower the water thing.

I split my Niagara 35 rudder and had the mild steel web that was welded to the stainless shaft replaced. Don't know if it was necessary or not but there was piece of mind.
10-27-2014 12:30 PM
LaVarlope
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Yeah, I have remove the rudder last week-end. It went well, all I had to do was remove the the bottom cast iron shoe and the attachement at the tiller and it came off. It's now in my 2 room appartment wich I have now transform into a boat shop . I had 2 option in mind either split the whole thing in 2 and have a good look at what is going on or simply do like you did and drill holes to let the water out and fill it with epoxy.
10-27-2014 12:09 PM
travlineasy
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

My rudder was actually split along the front seam, filled with water. I drilled a half-dozen 1/2-inch holes in the rudder, and allowed the water to drain out for three months while on the hard. I then connected a Shop Van and vacuumed out as much of the moisture as possible, which was only a bit more. Then I heated the entire rudder with a heat gun for about three hours, which steamed out most of the residual moisture.

The next step was to inject epoxy into the rudder core, which I really don't believe did much, but there is really no way to determine this. Next, grinding an indentation around each of the six holes I drilled, then placing stainless bolts, large fender washers, and lock-nuts to provide structural integrity to the rudder. Finally, the entire job was covered with several layers of fiberglass matting and roving, and after curing, a couple coats of antifouling bottom paint was applied. So far, after three years, it seems to holding up quite well.

Now, I did have serious thoughts about installing a new rudder, a foam filled rudder that is custom made in Florida. The cost was about $1,100 and I had to ship them my old rudder to be sure the size was perfect for the replacement. These rudders are very well constructed and well worth the expense. The major difficulty is removing the old rudder and replacing it with the new one. The boat must be lifted fairly high above the ground in order to obtain the needed clearance for removal and installation.

Good luck,

Gary
10-27-2014 10:38 AM
deniseO30
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

congrats! Now the "fun" begins. Fact of life, NOT many rudders are dry. even the one on my boat with epoxy coating and all that still gets water in it. Thing is to not let the water stay in the core.
10-27-2014 08:41 AM
LaVarlope
Re: How to go for 1 or 2 year cruise?

Ok so finally we manage to agree on a price for that 34'. It is now mine, so stoke about it. Thank you everybody for your input and feedback. Now it's time to prep everyting so I can be ready next spring to cast off.
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