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17 Minutes Ago 12:55 AM
mrhoneydew
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

On the topic of wine... inspired by barefoot I was walking by the wine area at my local Bartell Drug earlier this month and they had a pretty good local red blend (Columbia Crest "Amitage") on sale for $4.99/bottle from $11.99. I ended up going around to several locations and buying what they had... I now have 6 cases. [emoji15] Sure $393.12 after tax could be considered a huge blow to the budget, but it will likely take me a few years to go through 72 bottles of wine! [emoji6] Now I just need to figure out the best place to stow it all. Right now I have it in my rented garage, but after I take off this coming Spring it will have to fit onboard. Anybody have any good suggestions to safely stow a quantity of bottles?


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1 Hour Ago 11:18 PM
travlineasy
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Mike, there are times when you have to intermix the two in order to achieve the goals you've set. For example, I'm gonna drive down to the keys and spend a couple months drinking booze and playing music, and I'll be renting a home there. The cost is ridiculous, but what the Hell - I'm not leaving this hard earned cash for the kids, at least not intentionally. When I get home, the first task at hand will be to complete the income taxes, then go to work, balls to the wall, for the next six months, working 5 yo 7 days a week, sometimes two jobs a day, putting every dime in the bank. Then, when October rolls around, I'm putting up the sails, pointing the bow south, and heading back to Marathon Key, Florida. When I get there, I'll tie up the boat at the City Marina, hop on a plane, fly back to Baltimore, pick up my loving spouse, and point the car south, driving as fast as legally possible until I reach Marathon. We'll live aboard for about 4 months, I'll play the music at the tiki bars, marinas and resorts, then at the end of February, I'll load the car with my music gear, and drive back home again. Then I'll fly back to the boat and bring it home, which usually takes me about a month. All these things will cost a bundle, but like I said, the kids ain't gettin a dime unless I take an early dirt nap.

Cheers,

Gary
2 Hours Ago 10:44 PM
MikeOReilly
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Originally Posted by chall03 View Post
The otherside of it for us, is that while also paying for the car, the apartment and the 9 - 5 life we have our cruising boat here as well that we need to keep and maintain in a high cost city and without the luxury of as much time to do things ourselves as we did in cruising mode.
Exactly... Out of necessity, we find ourselves with boat on the hard, and us back in the fake life of wage work high cost living. I've come to realize/think of, this period as the strange part. People keep asking, "what's it like to be back in the 'real world?'" I keep saying, this is not real. My life on the boat, meandering around places -- THAT is real. This life back on land is just a necessary hiatus.

But to the financial question, if we come out ahead, with more money in the kitty than we started this land-hiatus, I think it will be a marginal increase. Balanced against this is the need to plug ourselves back into this land life, the loss of freedom and simplicity, and deeper connection my spouse and I have on our boat.

I miss it...
3 Hours Ago 09:52 PM
christian.hess
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

once again happy thanksgiving and happy holidays!

man is that so hard to do these days???
4 Hours Ago 08:58 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Originally Posted by barefootnavigator View Post
Bingo Mike, you just summarized the logic behind every can't do post on this thread. How could anyone living stateside imagine voyaging on any budget while being bombarded with all the costs associated with land based living. Like you we are trapped by winter. Were are also trapped by being in one of the most beautiful cruising grounds in the world that also has a very short cruising season. I honestly am starting to think that having two boats might be a cheaper way to go in the long run. So we could always be somewhere warm. One in the Salish Sea and one in Central America. We could flip flop back and forth and have the best of both worlds. We have been working our asses off and by April will have a small passive income so all we have to do is budget a bit and play the rest of the time. We could just up and sail south when the timing is right for us but Its so wonderful here we just can't seem to leave.
Well, that's one way to do it... Or, simply going with a trailerable boat could be another solution. However, I doubt that constitutes what most folks consider to be "VOYAGING", as originally described in the context of this thread...

In addition, not sure the logic necessarily follows, that owning 2 boats in different parts of the world simultaneously, would be "cheaper" than owning just one... :-)

Finally, by eliminating the actual "voyaging" - and time spent at sea and away from land, ports, and places to spend money - from such a commuter-style/Snowbird migration, you are actually cutting out the single aspect of long term cruising that costs the least...

Again, such a dual-boat plan might have considerable appeal for many, but I'm not sure that keeping the cost, logistics, and general hassle of boat ownership and living aboard at a bare-bones minimum would top the list of reasons for doing so...

:-))
4 Hours Ago 08:44 PM
christian.hess
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

time share AKA boat share down in central america!!!

THE SEASON HAS JUST STARTED! your good to go till july next year.

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/boat-b...ml#post2399698

Im dead serious if someone wants a boat to sleep on, fish on cruise on down south...with a little extra finishing off you can have mine

Im open to any offers and or options...a boat share system has been brought to my attention as an alternative to the standard bareboat charter system

my boat is frugal, barebones but has tons of space...sails well and has been redone structurally...

can sail as is...

lemme know

christian
4 Hours Ago 08:42 PM
chall03
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Originally Posted by MikeOReilly View Post
Nicely said BFN. And you touch on an interesting question -- one that is very real for me and my spouse right now. We left last Spring, but are now back on land for another winter work stint. This has brought into focus the high cost of working in our rich societies. I'm not actually sure it is worth it.

For the benefit of a pretty decent income (for my spouse) we have to maintain a house, a car, and all the expenses that go into that: utilities, taxes, insurance, maintenance costs, gas for vehicles, wood for the woodstove, etc... She has to maintain a professional wardrobe, professional accreditations. We have added travel costs, not to mention the generally higher cost of food, clothes, etc.

Some of these are details specific to us, but it's brought into stark contrast the high cost most of us pay for the privilege/benefit of going to work each day. I'm honestly not sure if we will be financially ahead, or actually fall behind. We might have been better off living inexpensively from our boat (or from our motorcycles), rather than coming back north to a high-income job.
Our experience has been very similar. After a sabbatical cruise we are now back in the real world topping up the kitty.

The otherside of it for us, is that while also paying for the car, the apartment and the 9 - 5 life we have our cruising boat here as well that we need to keep and maintain in a high cost city and without the luxury of as much time to do things ourselves as we did in cruising mode.
4 Hours Ago 08:28 PM
MikeOReilly
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

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Originally Posted by christian.hess View Post
my boat is for sale

in central america

come on why does everybody wish the best of both worlds and then when the opprtunity comes NOBODY BITES?????????

my islander 36 is for sale

I can finish it for you or you can
This is an amazing offer folks. Anyone considering the two-boat option (which I've thought about, but can't), or someone who wants to jump in with a great boat in a great location, now's the chance!
5 Hours Ago 08:04 PM
christian.hess
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootnavigator View Post
Bingo Mike, you just summarized the logic behind every can't do post on this thread. How could anyone living stateside imagine voyaging on any budget while being bombarded with all the costs associated with land based living. Like you we are trapped by winter. Were are also trapped by being in one of the most beautiful cruising grounds in the world that also has a very short cruising season. I honestly am starting to think that having two boats might be a cheaper way to go in the long run. So we could always be somewhere warm. One in the Salish Sea and one in Central America. We could flip flop back and forth and have the best of both worlds. We have been working our asses off and by April will have a small passive income so all we have to do is budget a bit and play the rest of the time. We could just up and sail south when the timing is right for us but Its so wonderful here we just can't seem to leave.
my boat is for sale

in central america

come on why does everybody wish the best of both worlds and then when the opprtunity comes NOBODY BITES?????????

my islander 36 is for sale

I can finish it for you or you can

its still black friday

50% off!

oh btw its a frugal cruiser with sayes rig windvane, insttuments, ssb radio and no engine

oh to be like the pardeys! ajaja

all joking aside

if my boat doesnt sell it will just sit there until I go down and do what bearfoot is talking about, ill cruise to panama and stuff head back to work...Ill be here with a small trailer sailor and having

THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!
10 Hours Ago 02:37 PM
barefootnavigator
Re: Voyaging on $500 per month

Bingo Mike, you just summarized the logic behind every can't do post on this thread. How could anyone living stateside imagine voyaging on any budget while being bombarded with all the costs associated with land based living. Like you we are trapped by winter. Were are also trapped by being in one of the most beautiful cruising grounds in the world that also has a very short cruising season. I honestly am starting to think that having two boats might be a cheaper way to go in the long run. So we could always be somewhere warm. One in the Salish Sea and one in Central America. We could flip flop back and forth and have the best of both worlds. We have been working our asses off and by April will have a small passive income so all we have to do is budget a bit and play the rest of the time. We could just up and sail south when the timing is right for us but Its so wonderful here we just can't seem to leave.
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