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02-04-2014 12:27 PM
guitarguy56
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Think how much unexplained stuff people have seen near AUTEC "Henry, I'm telling you, I just saw a periscope."
True... we did a lot of testing on some far out equipment I can't divulge due to my clearances... they consider AUTEC the Area 51 of the Navy... go figure... I will say it's where our submarines and other advanced underwater naval equipment gets tested for 'signatures', ULF and other neat stuff... if you're into it... I did some torpedo testing...

I think the locals might see strange stuff but for the most part they know the facility there and perhaps what the Navy is doing there... many work as civilians there as cooks, cleaning services, food delivery, etc... it's a whole city out there self contained.
02-04-2014 11:56 AM
Group9
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Originally Posted by guitarguy56 View Post
Here is my story on things we can't explain and those of us that have sailed under the darkest of skies while in the middle of the ocean or even close to shore...

Back in the 80's I was on assignment to AUTEC on Andros Island in the Bahamas... this is the Atlantic Underwater Test and Evaluation Center run by the U.S. Navy... while on a break we went to the Tiki bar by the beach and some of us were just having some drinks and looking out into the sea and sky somewhere around 9 PM... I (and others there) saw what looked like 8-9 stars (the magnitude of the light was the same as stars in the background) flying in all different directions and then all flew to one point of light and traveled some distance together until about the distance of half the view of the sky then dispersed into the same 8-9 lights and shot out of the horizon... now I'm an astronomy buff and know this was not birds, planes, balloons, etc... this was in space at least 20-50 miles up or more... we were blown away by what we saw... nothing can describe what we saw...

I am sure such things or phenomena have been seen by others... what have you seen above or below the water you cannot explain?
Think how much unexplained stuff people have seen near AUTEC "Henry, I'm telling you, I just saw a periscope."
02-04-2014 11:44 AM
guitarguy56
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

Not sure a gimbaled system would work reliably and be able to resolve the night sky... great idea just not practible on a boat, the complexity, weight, storage, etc... even looking through binoculars at night is rough with rolling waves, etc.

A tripod with motion sensing and adjusting legs may help similar to adjusting shocks on a car, the D/A processing would need to be pretty significant to 'foresee' the next adjustments (rolling waves)... this is the problem the military has with adjusting mirrors for camouflage in real time... processing power while in movement mimicking the background.
02-04-2014 12:42 AM
ericb760
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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I would love to have the scopes with me when cruising later... I imagine the salt air and moisture would kill them, that is why a pair of high powered binoculars are best for night and day observing... the stability on the boat would not be particularly best for resolution... but I imagine if one was on a cat it might be slightly better... best would be to find some small atoll or island and do some night sky observing... wonder how a Dobsonian would do on the deck...
I've thought about this as well, especially after watching this video some years ago.
02-03-2014 11:36 PM
guitarguy56
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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You can bet that if I ever head down South on a boat, I'm going to pack one (or both) to go with me! I lived in Palm Springs for a decade and would head up to Joshua Tree National Park a couple of times a year. At the back of the park you are, literally, hundreds of miles from light pollution. It was why I bought a telescope in the first place. Living in the city now, I actually use my Meade more for looking at the sun now. I splurged and bought an H-Alpha filter that really shows a lot of solar detail.H-Alpha
I would love to have the scopes with me when cruising later... I imagine the salt air and moisture would kill them, that is why a pair of high powered binoculars are best for night and day observing... the stability on the boat would not be particularly best for resolution... but I imagine if one was on a cat it might be slightly better... best would be to find some small atoll or island and do some night sky observing... wonder how a Dobsonian would do on the deck...
02-03-2014 11:30 PM
guitarguy56
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Flashes, or extended duration? Stationary?

Meteor Impacts Moon
It may have been a small impact flash from some meteor... problem with this is the flashes were on/off for several seconds in the same region observed... this happened for more than one occasion that night... now I know NASA inserted a mirror to get laser measurements, etc... but the location of the mirror is at the Sea of Tranquility... so not there.



As can be seen in this map quite a number of impacts in Mare Nectaris region... who knows?
02-03-2014 11:03 PM
manatee
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Originally Posted by guitarguy56
Region where I saw spots of light was Mare Nectaris... lowerright of theMoon during a quarter moon... bright and very clear that night using the refractor... very high resolution hence no camera on the eyepiece.
Flashes, or extended duration? Stationary?

Meteor Impacts Moon
02-03-2014 10:55 PM
ericb760
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Nice optics there Eric... would kill to get some older optics from the 70's...

I was a member of Boeing's Astronomical Society back in the mid 2000's when doing work on the 787 systems... we had a place up in Snowqualmie, WA... elevation was 2200 ft. so clear of Seattle lights... very dark and clear most times we went for a party... There were other places they had set up with other clubs but a long drive to get there...

Savannah doesn't have much by way of star parties but occasionally they have one on Oatland Island, pretty clear of lights since it's on a wildlife refuge... I have a pair of high power binoculars when I was on the sailboat in Everett and once passed the lights off Mukilteo the night sky opens up.
You can bet that if I ever head down South on a boat, I'm going to pack one (or both) to go with me! I lived in Palm Springs for a decade and would head up to Joshua Tree National Park a couple of times a year. At the back of the park you are, literally, hundreds of miles from light pollution. It was why I bought a telescope in the first place. Living in the city now, I actually use my Meade more for looking at the sun now. I splurged and bought an H-Alpha filter that really shows a lot of solar detail.H-Alpha
02-03-2014 10:39 PM
guitarguy56
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Originally Posted by ericb760 View Post
I have a Meade ETX-125 with a Celestron PowerTank and a Celestron 90EQ Refractor. As you know, the Meade takes a bit of time to set up, so I keep the Celestron handy to pull out for a quick look around. I bought the Celestron about fifteen years ago and it was old when I bought it. But, it has Japanese glass that is phenomenal! Even old-timers are impressed by it. I can resolve three or four of Jupiter's bands in good air. I really love my Meade, and would equally love an LX200, but I just don't have the space right now. I had it "supercharged" by Dr. Clay at the Arkansas Sky Observatory, and I would suggest this service to anyone with a GOTO mount. With proper alignment, everything that I goto ends up dead center of the eyepiece.Weasner's Meade ETX TechTips

I usually attend the semi-monthly Star Party at the Seal Beach Pier. Good bunch of folks. Not always the best seeing, but fun nonetheless! Astronomy Night-Star Party « Bogart's Coffee House
Nice optics there Eric... would kill to get some older optics from the 70's...

I was a member of Boeing's Astronomical Society back in the mid 2000's when doing work on the 787 systems... we had a place up in Snowqualmie, WA... elevation was 2200 ft. so clear of Seattle lights... very dark and clear most times we went for a party... There were other places they had set up with other clubs but a long drive to get there...

Savannah doesn't have much by way of star parties but occasionally they have one on Oatland Island, pretty clear of lights since it's on a wildlife refuge... I have a pair of high power binoculars when I was on the sailboat in Everett and once passed the lights off Mukilteo the night sky opens up.
02-03-2014 10:08 PM
ericb760
Re: Unexplained phenomena while sailing...

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Originally Posted by guitarguy56 View Post
Eric... I've seen objects that do change direction and so have the space shuttle cameras... they also recorded objects changing 90 degrees after stopping for an instant.

Glad there is another amateur astronomer on these boards... I have an Orion Astroview 120 refractor (my best refractor) and a Meade LX200... seen some stuff lighting up on the Moon one time but didn't have the camera set up. What's your set up? Star parties, etc.

TimR... suggest you get a VW moon hubcap... works better!
I have a Meade ETX-125 with a Celestron PowerTank and a Celestron 90EQ Refractor. As you know, the Meade takes a bit of time to set up, so I keep the Celestron handy to pull out for a quick look around. I bought the Celestron about fifteen years ago and it was old when I bought it. But, it has Japanese glass that is phenomenal! Even old-timers are impressed by it. I can resolve three or four of Jupiter's bands in good air. I really love my Meade, and would equally love an LX200, but I just don't have the space right now. I had it "supercharged" by Dr. Clay at the Arkansas Sky Observatory, and I would suggest this service to anyone with a GOTO mount. With proper alignment, everything that I goto ends up dead center of the eyepiece.Weasner's Meade ETX TechTips

I usually attend the semi-monthly Star Party at the Seal Beach Pier. Good bunch of folks. Not always the best seeing, but fun nonetheless! Astronomy Night-Star Party « Bogart's Coffee House
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