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Any Cal 22 Owners?

70K views 175 replies 36 participants last post by  Locke434 
#1 ·
I Have A 86 Cal 22 That I Love But Never Seen Another One In My Aera (ky/in Ohio River) Or Hear Any Talk On The Form. Would Love To Hear Any Advice/tech Tips. I Almost Sold Her 2 Years Ago For A Larger Boat (saber 28) Thanks
 
#105 ·
For JAM, you're looking at 240 vs. 270. From what I have read from other Cal 22 owners over the years, it's no contest. You should beat them. Of course, I believe most the Cal 22's I have read about are fin keels. All I've read indicates the fin keel goes to wind better than the shoal.

I have not raced my Cal against a Cat 22, so no personal experience. I race a Pearson on the Ohio River, but the lake I sail my Cal on has a limited sailing community....because it's just not that great a place to sail. Very close to my house though.:)

We've had one 2 1/2 mile pursuit race with handicap and four contestants....Potter 19, Southcoast 22, O'Day 302 and myself. So nothing anyone would consider fast. We have a Mac 26 and a Cat 250 in the marina, but they did not participate. I finished just short of an hour before everyone else. The O'day 302 is the only boat in our fleet that might have a shot at me with the much bigger sail plan. We have playfully matched raced a few times...I always get ahead going to wind, and he makes up ground going down wind. Part of that is because it's a finger lake and we have to tack a lot. The Cal is just much more nimble and easy to get moving.

Please share your experience racing against the Catalina's when you do. I'm curious.
 
#107 ·
We have bunch of Santana 20's and Catalina 22's, and couple of Santana 23's as well an assorted mix of other 4ktsb's in our club. I am not looking to build a race boat out of this one. Just want to have fun and stay in the mix. I'm claiming a PHRF of 240 with a symmetrical chute. Not sure if I've seen a rating for a shoal keel? I'm hoping with the fast hull speed I can also put the hurt on the Santana 20 fleet on the longer courses.

I'll probably be posting most of my pictures on FB on the Cal 22 Sailboats group page. I seldom post here...
 
#114 ·
When I wrote that I'm not sure I realized that light boats are going to round up easily in a good breeze. I don't mind sailing in a good blow. Having sailed on a few other boats of similar size since then, I think my weather helm is perhaps just a bit beyond normal. I did ease the backstay, which helped. I'm by myself almost all the time too. I remember the first time I had two guys that new how to sail with me...they jumped up on the rail and the boat was instantly balanced in 15 knots+. With just me, 12-14 knots means reef to keep the boat from excessive heel. It's surprising how much one or two people on the high side will balance our boat....Or even just me using the tiller extension and getting my 190 as far out as I can.

If you are in the light stuff all the time as you mentioned, single handing will be great. Of course if you are flying spin, you'll probably need some more hands to race efficiently.
BTW Does 4ktsb's translate to sail boats that go 4 knots? If so, I want to claim we have a 5ktsb's.:) I can go to wind routinely just above 5 knots per gps...5.5 when the bottom is clean. My top speed to date is 7.4 knots per gps...that was on a run and became a little scary.

Sailed today again. 45 and sunshine. 8-10 knots.
 
#117 ·
Yes, 4 kt sh!t box... 5kts...good to know. We many times get 10-15 knots but when summer rolls around, the winds can be pretty light. I just noticed that there was a bunch of weather helm. I did notice my mast does have a good rake to it. I may have to toy with that a bit. It may be just fine if it will point better. Either way, I'll probably sail it with the 130 for a while. I'll let you know what sort of speed I can get out of it. thanks for the picture! :)
 
#118 ·
If you look at where the clew is in relationship to the car, which is in it's most aft position, you can see there really isn't much left to add twist or flatten the head sail. That is the 135%. I don't think it was blowing much in that photo...lets hope not since I felt comfortable enough to leave the tiller lashed and take some photos from the bow.
 
#121 ·
Cool. Must have wind on the beam.

Did you run your spin halyard to the masthead, or is it just above where the forestay connects. Mine has an external halyard just above the forestay, but I really want to rig a masthead halyard and fly an Asym. Haven't come up with a great idea to get the tack in front of the bow yet.

Looks like fun.
 
#127 ·
Chris,

I'll try to take a photo for you, but it will be a while until things thaw out and I can get aboard my Cal. From memory, it's going to be difficult to take a photo that represents the way they attach because it is a very confined space. Ill take a look when I can.

Feel free to remind me to take the photo if you see nice weather in Kentucky and I have not responded.
 
#129 ·
JL,
So are you correcting to win easily at 235? JAM? Flying a spin racing? I'm looking for another boat to race, but I may end up racing my Cal 22 if I don't find something I like. Just like to get some feedback on how you did racing. Are you racing close with lower phrf boats heads up? Is there a webpage where I could look at your race results?

Thanks,

Ron
 
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