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03-08-2014 05:42 PM
ilCigno
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed

OK, different weather conditions, different defence measurements. The amount of snow is indeed a lot more than we have over here and cockpit draining in snowy conditions is indeed a serious issue, over here also. UV conditions can also play a role. The 'deck collapsing under snow weight' however I find some somewhat less convincing to me. A deck should be able to withstand the dynamic force of tons of water by collapsing waves, so the static force of (a lot of) snow should be no real problem. But than again, I don't live in such an area, so I cannot judge on that. I suppose these tent covers have been developed based on experience - which still leads to improvements so I read.
03-04-2014 07:41 PM
tommays
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed










What could happen

In 2013 we had 36" in 24 hours
03-04-2014 11:45 AM
DrB
Snow

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilCigno View Post
Reading this tread, I was wondering why this 'Fairclough' cover is being used at all. Here in the Netherlands you don't see structures like this at all. I can see the logic if you're a liveaboard, but in all other situations it seems somewhat superfluous to me because a sailboat is usually quite watertight in itself for rain and snow. Could you explain to me why this type of cover is apparently so popular in the US?
I lived in The Netherlands for 3 years (The Hague and Eindhoven). The amount of snow that The Netherlands sees in 10 years is roughly equal to the amount of snow in a one to two storms here. This year in the Greater Boston, MA area we've had about 1.75 m of snow this season already. That much additional weight on the boat could cause the deck to fail, especially if it snows and then rains and then there are several partial thaw-freeze cycles. It's not the rain or the snow the that's the specific problem, it's the damage that can happen if any water that finds it's way into hairline cracks and gaps freezes, expands, and then causes the cracks to widen, which increases the potential for water migration into the deck core.
03-03-2014 07:26 PM
Minnewaska
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed

They keep ice and snow off the deck and out of cockpit drains, as well as relieve everything from UV damage. They breath much better than the more common shrink wrapping.
03-03-2014 06:30 PM
ilCigno
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed

Reading this tread, I was wondering why this 'Fairclough' cover is being used at all. Here in the Netherlands you don't see structures like this at all. I can see the logic if you're a liveaboard, but in all other situations it seems somewhat superfluous to me because a sailboat is usually quite watertight in itself for rain and snow. Could you explain to me why this type of cover is apparently so popular in the US?
02-27-2014 01:28 PM
DrB
UPDATE: Reply from Fairclough

So I emailed Fairclough and got a quick response from Eric. The gist of the response is the following:
  • They have heard of lot of other folks having issues due to the brutal weather
  • They can ship replacement legs. The offered a slight discount to me because of the number I need.
  • They have redesigned the legs to have the bend (weak point) be stronger by putting in an additional reinforcing tube insert in the bend.
  • The provided me some info if I wanted to try and salvage portions of the tube and McGuyver something together.

All-in-all, I thought they were pretty good about it. The legs aren't outrageously expensive, but they are some $. I will need to explore which way I want to "fix".
02-23-2014 10:58 AM
DrB
Snow Load

This year hasn't really been any different than the other years as far as snow. We generally go to the boat every few weeks and drain the bilge of rain water when the day is warm. So far we have visited the boat twice previous to me going yesterday, and each time we remove any snow, which generally isn't a lot.

I think this year the kicker was the last two weeks where we got snow, then rain, then snow, then rain. Although the snow wasn't a lot (8 and 6 inches), my guess is the rain was the factor. Also it has been much colder this year than previous and my guess is there hasn't been much natural melting that normally would occur. The frustrating thing is that the neighbor to my left has the same cover system and did not have a failure, nor did anyone around the yard with Fairclough covers.

I plan to call them on Tuesday as I will be out of town tomorrow.

Thanks all.
02-23-2014 10:30 AM
Maine Sail
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed

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Originally Posted by paulk View Post
Our homemade conduit supports also gave way because of the snowload. Bent like pretzels. Rain absorbed by the snow was simply too heavy. We're re-engineering our supprt system this weekend. (It's a lot warmer!)

The 3 easiest solutions....

#1 Pitch
#2 Pitch
#3 Pitch

Our cover has yet to retain more than .5" of snow before self removal ensues... Even though it is next to the house I hate having to "bust snow"... With this design I never need to....
02-23-2014 10:04 AM
paulk
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed

Our homemade conduit supports also gave way because of the snowload. Bent like pretzels. Rain absorbed by the snow was simply too heavy. We're re-engineering our supprt system this weekend. (It's a lot warmer!)
02-23-2014 10:04 AM
Minnewaska
Re: My Fairclough Cover Failed

I guess in coastal RI, it's somewhat uncommon for snow load to remain long enough for the next big dump. Most often, it will even rain in between, let alone will the sun come out and start melting it off.

But, it's got me thinking. This winter has been a bitch and I haven't seen my cover in going on 2 months.

Another thought. I've yet to install my Fairclough without the mast in place, which is firm attached to the ridge. The one year on rotation, since I bought her and where I dropped the mast, she went inside for a paint job. I wonder if securing the ridge to the mast adds marginal stability. Otherwise, I can see how the entire structure could theoretically rock back and forth.
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