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05-15-2007 08:35 AM
KeelHaulin There are many ways to set up your sheets; and I'm not suggesting that any one way is better than another. I need to change my setup because the lines are wrapping up on each-other due to a swivel on the snap shackle. Far from ideal.

I will mention that if you have a failure of your sheet at it's attachment point it would be better have the two lines independent of one another rather than both as a continuous line. If one of two knots fail you are not at risk of losing both sheets and having a completely uncontrolled headsail. JMHO...
05-15-2007 08:00 AM
sailingdog
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Originally Posted by KeelHaulin
If you are going to put a Lark's Head knot in your sheets, why wouldn't you just splice eyes around the clew? A Lark's Head can be very difficult to untie and it seems that you would rather have bowlines if you are frequently changing sails than a single sheet with a Lark's Head in the middle. In addition an eye will retain 90+% of the breaking strength; while any knot will reduce the strength by at least 40%.
A Lark's Head knot, which is really a hitch, doesn't loose that much strength IMHO, since you're effectively just passing the line through the clew. A splice is not removable and would require you have separate sheets made up for each sail. On most boats, unless they actually race seriously, the headsails aren't changed very often...and a Lark's head is really the simplest and best option.
05-15-2007 06:55 AM
freddy4888 With a cutter rig, the larks head knot is the only way to go in my opinion. My jib has to clear a staysail stay when tacking and with the larks head knot I have no problems. As to slipping concerns I do not worry about it because at the end of the season when I remove the jib for storage the larks head knot becomes one of those "effin" knots that requires the use of a marlin spike to get it loose.
05-15-2007 05:17 AM
KeelHaulin If you are going to put a Lark's Head knot in your sheets, why wouldn't you just splice eyes around the clew? A Lark's Head can be very difficult to untie and it seems that you would rather have bowlines if you are frequently changing sails than a single sheet with a Lark's Head in the middle. In addition an eye will retain 90+% of the breaking strength; while any knot will reduce the strength by at least 40%.
05-12-2007 05:37 PM
sailingdog wumhenry-

the only problem is that the double sheetbend's tail may snag on the shrouds like a bowline does. The Lark's head doesn't have anything to snag on the shrouds.
05-12-2007 05:12 PM
wumhenry
another way

Here's a recommendation I saw in Good Old Boat magazine last year:

Put a permanent tail in the leech cringle by eye-splicing a piece of braided line. How long piece? Long enough to do what it says ya gotta do with it! (Read on.)
Then find the middle of a single continuous sheetline and mark it with whippings about 18 inches apart. Form a bight with the part of the line between the whippings and use the tail to secure it with a double sheetbend.
That's all.

Advantages over single sheetline with cow hitch: no wrinkles in the clew and you can change headsails while leaving the sheetline in place.
04-27-2007 08:42 PM
sailingdog Good to hear it...
04-27-2007 06:57 PM
Zanshin I sailed today in 25+ kts of wind and the new pedigree cow hitch knots held up very well and didn't cause me any problems at all while tacking! I'm a happy camper - thanks to all in this invaluable forum!
04-26-2007 09:07 PM
Zanshin wumhenry - I posted an existing picture of the Pedigree cow hitch; imagine a mirror image to the left of that and the bitter ends each going into the turns of the other. I have 2 separate sheets, so needed 2 knots.
04-26-2007 07:22 PM
poopdeckpappy
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Originally Posted by wumhenry
I'm confused. Are you used a single line for the sheets or two lines?
that's for two sheets ( lines )
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