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06-04-2007 12:46 AM
sailaway21 Generally speaking, if you see a tricolor at your masthead, and you don't remember buying one, or mounting one there, it's indicative that you have reached your maximum angle of intoxication.(g)
06-03-2007 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by btrayfors


Hey, with my tricolor mast-top nav lights I kinda get that red-over-green effect when I'm rail down on the port tack. 'Course on the starboard tack I kinda get the green-over-red effect which ain't really in the Rules :-)


If you manage to get a meter separation between the red and green on your masttop tricolor, I'd be really, really impressed...and a bit worried.
06-03-2007 10:29 PM
btrayfors sd,


Hey, with my tricolor mast-top nav lights I kinda get that red-over-green effect when I'm rail down on the port tack. 'Course on the starboard tack I kinda get the green-over-red effect which ain't really in the Rules :-)

06-03-2007 09:37 PM
hellosailor Not unless you can book me on the show direct, without a computer.

I try not to operate electrical appliances or heavy machinery while drinking.
06-03-2007 06:34 PM
sailingdog Great... just what we need HS and BT being drunk and on sailnet...
06-03-2007 10:43 AM
hellosailor "too much Mt. Gay this evening,"
See now, Bill, you've gotten that backwards again. TOO MUCH Mt. Gay would have kept you away from the heavy machinery, including the computer, and you couldn't have posted that error.
Let's try again, until you get it right. Start with a decent sized glass, like a water tumbler. Actually, get out two of them, I'll pace you with the other one to make sure you're pouring right.
06-02-2007 11:02 PM
Egg On My Face - Sorry

John and other Sailnet Members...

I apologize most sincerely. In checking what I actually did purchase and install atop my mast, I found it was NOT an all-round red over green at all, but a combined "tricolor" and anchor light. In fact, according to my records (I'm not near the boat now to check physically), it's an AquaSignal Series 40 like the one here: AQUA SIGNAL NAVIGATION LIGHTS

OK, let's sort out the differences this makes from my post above:

1. The combined "tricolor" light can be carried atop the mast by sailing vessels under sail and less than 20 meters overall. Fine for me and John.

2. This combined tricolor is carried IN LIEU OF other navigation lights. Thus there is in fact LESS current draw because only one bulb is needed instead of three (sidelights and sternlight).

3. Visibility benefits are still there....high up above the water can be useful at sea.

4. No special benefits in terms of recognizing a sailing vessel.

5. No worry about "vertical separation of lights".

In sum, you can use EITHER regular nav lights when sailing, or the tricolor lamp atop the mast for better visibility and lower current draw.

The model I have also has a built-in anchor light. AquaSignal also makes a model which has a strobe light in addition to the tricolor and the anchor light.

Sorry for the confusion....too much Mt. Gay this evening, I guess :-))

06-02-2007 10:21 PM
jrd22 btrayfors- where did you get your German red over green lights? I'm definitely going in install them on my next boat, 40-44'. Thanks.
06-02-2007 10:12 PM
Sailing Red Over Green at Top of Mast

I do not believe that it is necessary to separate the red-over-green lights specified in Rule 25 (c) of the International and the Inland Rules of the Road.

This Rule provides that a sailing vessel, proceeding under sail, may carry IN ADDITION TO THE PRESCRIBED SIDELIGHTS AND STERNLIGHT, two all-round lights at the top of the mast, the top one of which shall be red, the lower one green.

These are not the lights "prescribed" in Section A of the Rules, and therefore do not fall under the Annex provisions re: vertical separation of lights (which mostly applies to masthead lights (NOT lights atop the mast) anyway.

In fact, many larger sailboats carry these lights in a very nice unit made in Germany. I have one on my 42' sailboat. You can, indeed, distinguish the red from the green, although their vertical separation is very little. And, they add a great deal of visibility when underway offshore. Also, as noted above, sailing vessels under sail are the ONLY vessels which may carry such lights, helping other vessels to correctly identify a vessel under sail.

The extra weight and windage are trivial on a cruising boat...not something to even think about. The only downside, however, is the extra current draw while sailing, since you can only carry these lights IN ADDITION TO the regular side and stern lights.

06-02-2007 08:57 PM
hellosailor Never seen the red over green on a boat in US waters. I suspect no one would know what it meant, if you did it, making it rather counterproductive.

"Hey, Bubba, looka the christmas lights, let's go check'em out."

You know, the same guys who have the same problem at street intersections. Except now, they're drunk running go-fast boats.
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